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KK at final table of $10 tourney
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October 6, 2010 - 9:09 pm
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Poker Stars $10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t500/t1000 Blinds + t125 – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

mikelbyl (SB): BB = 14.4, t14416
deepcoverb (BB): BB = 27.1, t27068
thebottle (UTG): BB = 45.8, t45835
Hero (UTG+1): BB = 30.8, t30798
utley6609 (MP1): BB = 23.7, t23698
GuyB57 (MP2): BB = 47.4, t47430
tom_trump (CO): BB = 13.8, t13824
PoManSpecial (BTN): BB = 9.9, t9931

Pre Flop: (t2500) Hero is UTG+1 with K of clubs K of diamonds
1 fold, Hero raises to t2600, 1 fold, GuyB57 calls t2600, 3 folds, deepcoverb calls t1600

Flop: (t9300) J of clubs T of hearts 7 of diamonds (3 players)
deepcoverb checks, Hero bets t5300, GuyB57 raises to t10600, deepcoverb folds, Hero calls t5300

Turn: (t30500) A of clubs (2 players)
Hero…???

 

Hey everyone hope I converted this right, its my first time using it. Anyways, this was last night at a small $10 tourney (NAPLdiv1). This is just a few hands into the final table and I havent played with Guyb at all during the tourney til the FT, so no reads. How is my line after the flop? Given the line I have taken what do I do with that turn? Thanks all!

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October 6, 2010 - 10:24 pm
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Good question….well we first have to figure out what his flatting + min-raising value range is there.  I think we can throw out 77 bc youre a bit too short for him to be setmining, and 1010 because he'd prolly just ship it being that he is in MP and would really hate life if someone shoved behind, or if more flatted and he took a multiway pot 1010.  So if he's your standard nitty player on the FT, he'd prolly be flatting, JJ+, AJ+, and if he was a more loose player we MIGHT include KQs and A10s.  Of that flatting range he is min-raising pretty much all of it, and the only thing youre beating on the turn is QQ, everything else got hit in the face.  Given your stack size the only play you can do is jam the turn or fold, and of his range he is literally folding 0% of it to a shove imo so its a check/fold in my mind.

Another question we should be asking is why not shove the flop over the min-raise, because he WOULD be calling with AJ, QQ, and KQ and would be behind.  

 

Just my 2c. 

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October 7, 2010 - 3:29 am
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Yeaaah.. shove the flop man, if you're beat you're beat. Soo many bad cards can come on the turn for you and the flop is decent for you anyway. You can get called by a worse here.

You need those chips so go play for the win and pooooooooosh the flop.

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Agree with all sentiments so far. You start the hand with only 30BB and there is a wide range of hands that villian can have that you are beating. Jam-a-lamming the flop is best option here. When u flat the Villians 3bet you have put in half your stack, so its either shove flop or fold, and i dont think you can honestly fold ever in this spot  

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October 7, 2010 - 8:49 am
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Yeah, these guys have it right. The flop sucks and we're playing 30 bb effecitve stacks. We just need to get it in. It just sucks though because we all know the ending to this story…

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FkCoolers said:

Yeah, these guys have it right. The flop sucks and we're playing 30 bb effecitve stacks. We just need to get it in. It just sucks though because we all know the ending to this story…


 

That red riding hood gets eaten by the wolf……?

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jam flop that way we don't have to worry about turn…..if they have us beat on flop so be it chalk it up to a cooler as bad as it sucks at a FT

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Thanks for the input everyone, turn went check-check, river went check-shove-fold. I definitely regretted not getting it in on the flop immediately after the hand. I ended building my stack back up some and took third for 170ish.

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the softest said:

Thanks for the input everyone, turn went check-check, river went check-shove-fold. I definitely regretted not getting it in on the flop immediately after the hand. I ended building my stack back up some and took third for 170ish.


 

Never regret. Learn from it and move on. Nice score though, congrats

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he raised u on the flop….so buck back with a jam

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