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KK 3bet pot utg1 vs utg, still multiway
almofadinhas
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June 1, 2016 - 12:17 am
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For the start: embarassedembarassedembarassed

I was on tilt, I knew this was a ridiculous call OTF…

My question here is if I should cbet this flop, or just give up, JJ and TT are on peoples range, I block the KQ there, but still wasn´t sure about the cbet… The call was the tilt moment… unrelated to poker… working on it.

Occur to me to bet small OTF, but I don´t think they will fold draws, and i was going to be unsure on what to do if called…

IPoker, $1.82 Buy-in (30/60 blinds) No Limit Hold’em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 6,870 (114.5 bb)
BB: 4,110 (68.5 bb)
UTG+1: 4,880 (81.3 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): 5,570 (92.8 bb)
MP1: 2,580 (43 bb)
MP2: 4,480 (74.7 bb)
MP3: 1,600 (26.7 bb)
CO: 2,000 (33.3 bb)
BTN: 1,910 (31.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Kclub Kdiamond
UTG+1 raises to 180, Hero raises to 480, MP1 folds, MP2 calls 480, 3 folds, SB calls 450, BB folds, UTG+1 calls 300

Flop: (1,980) 2club Jclub Tspade (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 1,200, MP2 calls 1,200, SB raises to 5,400, UTG+1 calls 4,400 and is all-in, Hero calls 3,890 and is all-in, MP2 calls 2,800 and is all-in

Turn: (20,560) 5diamond (4 players, 3 are all-in)
River: (20,560) 8diamond (4 players, 3 are all-in)

Results: 20,560 pot
Final Board: 2club Jclub Tspade 5diamond 8diamond
SB showed Tclub 8club and won 1,380 (-4,190 net)
UTG+1 showed Tdiamond Theart and won 19,180 (14,300 net)
Hero mucked Kclub Kdiamond and lost (-5,570 net)
MP2 showed Aclub Aspade and lost (-4,480 net)

lapp3r30
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June 1, 2016 - 2:33 am
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I CB this flop but your sizing is way big… You have position on 2/3 opponents so there’s a decent chance you have positional advantage after your CB and call… If they don’t fold draws it’s not fine since we should have an idea of what cards are good for their call range.  

clubdiamondheartspade
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June 6, 2016 - 11:22 pm
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I don’t think this is anywhere near as bad of a call as you’re making it out to be, regardless of whether you were tilted when you made it or not. It’s probably not great, but there is a ton of money in the pot here so I don’t think you need to beat yourself up about it.

That said, I think you’re being really results-oriented to think about not c-betting this flop at all. I do think your sizing is too big, and there’s an argument that check-raising might be a pretty good way to make sure you get it all-in versus QQ or AJ 100% of the time, but I certainly don’t think you can just assume someone has JJ/TT here often enough to check-fold.

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June 9, 2016 - 6:39 am
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You are very deep.

As others have said here, the c-bet is too large imo.

TP on this draw heavy board is something I am probably folding here if multiple V’s show frenzied interest in the pot after my c-bet.

At least one V already has you beat here OTF, usually, in my experience.

When I am trying to read hands and decide how much value I am looking to get (if any) from TP, I always remind myself that “this is only a top pair hand”…often a marginal hand by the river. In this way I avoid becoming too attached to the hand.

It has become like a mantra I repeat in my mind any time I am considering launching a significant % of my stack into the pot with TP.

But console yourself with the thought that almost everyone in this hand played their cards much worse than you did!

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June 9, 2016 - 8:04 am
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Cbet is undoubtedly in order, as others have said before me sizing should be reconsidered.

Once the Re-raise was placed and UTG+1 called I think it would be time to narrow hand ranges for those in play. 

I to have had problems, at times, with letting KK or AA go when I believe or know I’m beat. As Riceman said, it’s only top pair.

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