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13 or 14 left in $75 superstack
muelli67 is 20/15 with 0% fold to 3b, but he had only been 3b twice.
My image is pretty solid, not been played back at much prob cuz of earlier when I kept 4b'n if I got 3b but that was before villain was at tbl
So pre flop I 3b, obv calling if he jams, but if he calls we have ~ a pot sized bet left to make things easy, but what do you do on this flop, I did OPR villain and he's a losing player over 850+ games so I think Ax is in his flatting range along with smaller pairs etc. What is best here now?
Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t3000.00/t6000.00 Blinds – 6 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge
pokerkid8686 (UTG): t268472.00 44.75 BBs
muelli67 (MP): t191613.00 31.94 BBs
guitey (CO): t146657.00 24.44 BBs
SPRAGGS (BTN): t183052.00 30.51 BBs
trontrontron (SB): t409152.00 68.19 BBs
RafGb (BB): t206542.00 34.42 BBs
Pre Flop: (t9000) guitey is CO with K
K
1 fold, muelli67 raises to t18000, guitey raises to t45650, 3 folds, muelli67 calls t27650
Flop: (t100300) Q
6 A (2 players)
muelli67 checks, guitey checks
Turn: (t100300) Q (2 players)
muelli67 checks, guitey checks
River: (t100300) 2 (2 players)
muelli67 bets t30000.00, guitey calls t30000
June 25, 2010
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You always have the hardest questions IMO. Probably because you crush. I would probably just ship it in really reluctantly. I think mostly pairs and ATs+ in his range, so I would say you are still ahead of his range on this board. Turn sucks too, fold pre IMO so you don't get into tough spots.
July 3, 2010
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Well… you beat JJ, TT, and air. Feels like he'd just check the midpairs again, though.
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March 17, 2010
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+1 to this being hard.
I think you played this hand well. Starting pre, I am completely at a loss as to what just calls you preflop because it seems awful to go to any flops with stack sizes being what they are. I can only even consider trapping with AA here. But then again we don't know if this guy is capable at all. You say he's a 20/15 so he seems pretty active and I guess he opens a ton of hands 6 handed.
Trying to get inside his mind, I think AA and QQ are in his pf range (even though i'm never flatting QQ here i guess some may). Doubt he has 99/TT/KK/AK and I guess AQ is possible as bad as it is to see a flop.
Then I think his range is a bunch of broadways and high SCs, and maybe some midpairs. Once again, if he's not very good then he wants to see a flop with them and go from there.
Can't really read much into the flop as he should be checking made hands into you 100% since you were the aggressor. However, he could have just decided to give up with his missed hands or get to showdown with his Q hands. So I think his range is still wide. I'd check back here as well because he'll fold everything but made As and Qs to showdown but the stacks are shallow enough to get the value from Qs later.
Turn is a kinda crappy card making showdown hands you beat less likely.
River can be a stab or just getting value from you from his monsters. You played very passively and while I'd check/call you with my showdown hands he is probably just blocking and I'd call. No point in raising as he's either crushing you or folding to pressure.
I can't see any way of playing it differently. Well played, tough spot.
Yea this was just such a shitty spot. I just chose to play it conservatively hoping he had some small pair or something. He showed up with A8s. Can we ever fold the river? Looking back I can't think what he is betting the river that small, maybe JJ but he would ship that pre so I really don't know.
I think your line is fine and I think you have to call as played.
JDOG1645 said:
I think your line is fine and I think you have to call as played.
^^^ This
July 3, 2010
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guitey said:
Yea this was just such a shitty spot. I just chose to play it conservatively hoping he had some small pair or something. He showed up with A8s. Can we ever fold the river? Looking back I can't think what he is betting the river that small, maybe JJ but he would ship that pre so I really don't know.
I couldn't put him on a hand … I ended up coming up with something like 77-TT and airballs but he is definitely betting for value on the river here. It's not a bet that wants a fold. I guess the hand makes sense from his perspective now that we know what it is… but I had ruled out shitty Aces when going over this in my head because anyone competent would have folded since you just put almost 1/3 of your stack in preflop.
these are gross spots, although this would be WAY worse if we had like 1.5x pot behind or more.
anyway, with just a PSB and a FD on board i think jamming the flop can be fine.
outside of that, taking your line and hoping to get to showdown/that he bluffs/maybe you can v-bet the river is best.
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