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2nd hand in. It's folded around to me and I raised KJo in sb and bb 3bets. Should I call here as bb might put me on a steal or does he mostly have a big hand in this spot? 4betting sounds absurd, so let's leave that option out.
Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t10/t20 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
wintop11 (MP2): t2980 149 BBs
cs���zek (CO): t2940 147 BBs
21seconds (BTN): t3260 163 BBs
Hero (SB): t2980 149 BBs
DanCariello (BB): t2860 143 BBs
vakhi 77 (UTG): t3405 170.25 BBs
taikura (UTG+1): t3000 150 BBs
Buffoneze (UTG+2): t2970 148.50 BBs
tikismydog (MP1): t2880 144 BBs
Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is SB with J
K
7 folds, Hero raises to t60, DanCariello raises to t160, Hero?
with no history its a fold. You have to give people credit until they give you reason not to. At this point he's a totally unkown… just fold
totally agree with with gOliath, second hand in no reads and we're OOP… dump it.
curious to y a 4bet is absurd in ur opinion. i mean i dont advise it this early on but just curious to know y this play is absurd. i mean i wouldnt totally rule it out. kjo is strong hand bliind vs blind and villian could be 3betting light to set the tone against his bb. i mean i think a fold is the right play but just always curious of these type of situations.
bjizz
October 6, 2010
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definite fold, big reverse implied odds here, because even if you flop a K or J you are still playing the guessing game OOP, because AJ, AK, KQ etc are all in villain's 3bet range and so its likely you either win a small pot when he doesnt have it or lose a big one.
because i dont see any reason in turning my hand into a bluff trying to get back the 60 i'd put in in this spot and having to fold if villain shoves on us.
Obv im not saying that a “4bet” in general is an absurd play, just in this spot this early and without any history between me and villain.
that early in the tourney – easy fold
sounds nitty but blinds 10/20 i maybe not even raise the bb with that hand
made the ez fold, just curious if anyone else had a different view :p
tx anyways for ur thoughts
bennymacca said:
definite fold, big reverse implied odds here, because even if you flop a K or J you are still playing the guessing game OOP, because AJ, AK, KQ etc are all in villain's 3bet range and so its likely you either win a small pot when he doesnt have it or lose a big one.
again, i totally agree a fold is in order in the early going here. just making some discussion. was just kinda triggerd when KingsBustYou mentioned that this would be an absurd 3bet or call spot. just curious……
what ranges are we raise/callng or 4betting in this spot?
bjizz
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