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Hey guys,
Just wondering what your thoughts are with this hand.. Do we open 2.1x & fold to 3bet? Do we open shove here or just fold?
Feedback would be greatly appreciated.. At this point in the tournament there were approx 200 runners/4k that started & blinds seemed to be reasonably tight but no real info known.
Just wondering what your thoughts are with this hand.. Do we open 2.1x & fold to 3bet? Do we open shove here or just fold?
The blinds actually have 16bb each but I could not correct the title after I made it live?
Feedback would be greatly appreciated.. At this point in the tournament there were approx 200 runners/4k that started & blinds seemed to be reasonably tight but no real info known.
Pre Flop: (t17500) Hoovering Up is BTN with 8
K
6 folds
October 6, 2010
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i shove here a lot of the time – but i think its a leak
i just checked the ICM pushbot spreadsheet, and this play is pretty much neutral EV or very slightly -EV so i think its a fold or maybe you can raise-fold if you like but i dont think you should be open shoving.
cheers for the hand, it made me analyze a spot where i obv make a mistake myself a lot.
Thanks for the reply..
I dont suppose you have that pushbot shove chart at all handy that you could link me with or point me in the right direction of..
Its something I have wanted to look at for ages.. I used to have one with SNG Wiz but the highest Tournament that covers is 180 man SNG's.
October 6, 2010
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here is the link. …..ou-824728/
RFB also has a maths spreadsheet as part of his MTT math video (…../mtt-math/) but TBH i prefer the pushbot one as it has a graphical representation of the EV of each hand.
Thanks mate..
Although it looks pretty difficult to follow.. Im one of these people who need to be shown how to use things etc..
Off to bed for the night tho..
Will PM you if ok?
Cheers
Dan
if they seem reasonably tight then just minraise/fold.
the reason shoving can be valuable in spots like this is when A) the blinds are aggressive restealers and B) we have a hand with too much equity to raise/fold (like QTs or KJo).
Thanks Hagbard 🙂
Advice appreciate from a pro 🙂
Hagbard Celine said:
if they seem reasonably tight then just minraise/fold.
the reason shoving can be valuable in spots like this is when A) the blinds are aggressive restealers and B) we have a hand with too much equity to raise/fold (like QTs or KJo).
This was exactly what I was thinking as I was reading this thread!!
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