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October 11, 2013
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PokerStars - $2+$0.20|150/300 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 8 players Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 UTG+1: 2,560.00 MP: 2,580.00 Hero (MP+1): 18,349.00 CO: 2,795.00 BTN: 24,931.00 SB: 11,318.00 BB: 9,716.00 UTG: 5,041.00 UTG+1 posts ante 25.00, MP posts ante 25.00, Hero posts ante 25.00, CO posts ante 25.00, BTN posts ante 25.00, SB posts ante 25.00, BB posts ante 25.00, UTG posts ante 25.00, SB posts SB 150.00, BB posts BB 300.00 Pre Flop: (650.00) Hero has JJ
fold, fold, fold, [color=red]Hero raises to 600.00[/color], fold, [color=red]BTN raises to 1,500.00[/color], fold, [color=red]BB raises to 9,691.00 and is all-in[/color], fold, fold BB wins 3,950.00
Can't call here, right? What would be the range for those 2 villains?
BTN 39/22/1 (41 hands) 3bet PF 13% (2/15)
BB 33/8/2 (36 hands) 4bet 50% (1/2)
March 26, 2013
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JJ seems a strong hand to me in this spot.
Firstly, you have raised in a fairly late position and been 3bet by the large stack on the button which could be very wide indeed. If the 32bbs stack is a thinking player then this is a very good spot to GII with a hand that does well versus a wide opening range + wide 3bet range (which I think occurs here).
More importantly, the BB is very unlikely to have a strong hand here such as AA/KK as I think he would just make a smallish 4bet to induce either you or the big stack to come over the top. Personally, I think the BB range is probably 99+, AJ+ and maybe even KQ. You obviously do well versus that range of hands.
Now you have the big stack to deal with. The big issue after the BB jams is not really whether you call him but whether you have the equity to risk 60+ bbs here as you have to jam or fold as calling the BB commits you anyway. Personally, I think this is too good a spot to not GII as the button can be 3 betting very wide. There is almost 12000 in the pot and you have a chance to increase your stack by +66% in the very likely event that the button has to fold. Those odds are too good to miss and if you run into AA, KK or QQ then gg and onto the next.
August 31, 2013
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Hi,
BTN seems to be agressive (even it's a small sample). OTB his 3betting range can be pretty wide vs your HJ open so I'm pretty sure your way a head his range.
BB is more problematic. He seems to be more passive so his range is pretty tight in that spot imo. The key point here is to know if he is aware of BTN wide range and so if he can be shoving wider. You need about 43% equity to call if we don't take BB in count but because of him I think 50% is better. It means BB has to shove at least 99+/AQ+ (50% equity vs JJ) to call.
Is he shoving that? I don't know, the problem is his 32BB stack, against 20BB I'm snaping, here it's more close but I don't think I'm folding, we can suppose he is not shoving 32BB with AA/KK and sometimes he is doing that with 55 or AT so yes I think it's a reshove.
June 11, 2012
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seriously guys the BB is running 33/8 so the only thing he is aware of that he is holding AA or KK and wants to get all the money in pre.
easiest fold in history of poker
August 31, 2013
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florianm1 said:
seriously guys the BB is running 33/8 so the only thing he is aware of that he is holding AA or KK and wants to get all the money in pre.
easiest fold in history of poker
The sample is pretty small so can't be sure (can't be sure of BTN range too I agree). His range is way more QQ/AK heavy than AA/KK imo. If he is shoving QQ/AK we have 46% equity with 43% pot odds (as I said 50% is better because of BTN), if he is shoving any other hand (AQ or TT) except AA/KK we have at least 50%.
Not saying it's an easy call, but you can't say it's the easiest fold in history of poker. I think he has AK a lot in that spot!
September 29, 2012
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1) The button range could be something like: AJ+, 77+ and maybe KQ/AT for value as well as a number of assorted hands he decided to bluff such as A7s or like J8s. So he has a wide range. He has the room to set mine and play stronger speculative hands ofr implied value so let's reduce that part of his range. So i would not expect hands like 33 and 54s to be in his range very often.
2) The BB could very well see hands like 99+ and AQ+ as profitable pushes due to all the action coming from LP. He may also be shoving light as a bluff once in a while as well.
Taking that into account, we would be getting over 50% equity against the BB and the button can only call off with AA/KK (and AK?) really, so he's folding 90% of the time and if he comes along (including AK) we have 31% equity when that happens. If he folds AK we only have 17% equity 10% of the time and over 50% equity 90% of the time.
Now with his stats, he got a 50% 4 bet while showing a 38/8/2 line and florian beleives that indicates AA and KK. I'm not sur eI can agree with this analysis. 1) The sample is small. 2) His other stats are relatively fishy/aggressive. He could also be one of those fish that goes wild once they get a pair.
June 11, 2012
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jjpregler said:
1) The button range could be something like: AJ+, 77+ and maybe KQ/AT for value as well as a number of assorted hands he decided to bluff such as A7s or like J8s. So he has a wide range. He has the room to set mine and play stronger speculative hands ofr implied value so let's reduce that part of his range. So i would not expect hands like 33 and 54s to be in his range very often.
2) The BB could very well see hands like 99+ and AQ+ as profitable pushes due to all the action coming from LP. He may also be shoving light as a bluff once in a while as well.
Taking that into account, we would be getting over 50% equity against the BB and the button can only call off with AA/KK (and AK?) really, so he's folding 90% of the time and if he comes along (including AK) we have 31% equity when that happens. If he folds AK we only have 17% equity 10% of the time and over 50% equity 90% of the time.
Now with his stats, he got a 50% 4 bet while showing a 38/8/2 line and florian beleives that indicates AA and KK. I'm not sur eI can agree with this analysis. 1) The sample is small. 2) His other stats are relatively fishy/aggressive. He could also be one of those fish that goes wild once they get a pair.
his other stats are just fishy. with 33/8/2. also keep in mind what 50% 4bet means when it says 1/2. it means he 4bet once out of two situations where a 3bet occured.
maybe his range is bit wider but for me not wide enough to actually take this spot.
June 8, 2012
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BB range is fairly easy to digest: QQ+, AK
May 30, 2012
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I'm not the online guys or numbers guy like you guys are , but I'm folding to this all day.
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December 6, 2012
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I'd fold but I think it's relatively close. IMO some responders are making a mistake looking at the BB's 8% PFR and saying that he must have a huge hand. He also has a 33% VPIP, and while he generally seems to prefer calling to raising, his reaction to a 3-bet that represents 15% of his stack may be different than his reaction facing a single raise. In other words, just because he's called rather than raised a lot facing one raise doesn't necessarily mean he's going to have a range for cold calling a large 3-bet. He generally plays too many hands, and this is a spot where even a tight player might well shove any hand he's going to play, so I think it's fair to assume his shove could be a little wider than it should be.
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