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JJ spot in stars 8.8 rebuy.

th1986

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January 1, 2011 - 12:56 pm

Villian is 53/9 and 5% agg factor. Over 41 hands.

Pre i feel we are too deep to shove so i decide to 3bet/call.

Flop is where im really unsure. We have about 1k more than a pot sized bet. So thinking maybe i should shove? We can likely get hero calls from flush draws and maybe even small PP.

I feel like i butchered this hand. Advice? Thanks!

Poker Stars $8.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t150/t300 Blinds + t25 – 9 players 
<a href=https://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/hand-history-converter/>TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter</a> 
 
Hero (CO): BB = 33.8, t10145 
BTN: BB = 73.1, t21925 
SB: BB = 39.5, t11860 
BB: BB = 32.1, t9625 
UTG: BB = 48.4, t14515 
UTG+1: BB = 24.9, t7480 
UTG+2: BB = 18.2, t5465 
MP1: BB = 46.2, t13862 
MP2: BB = 55.6, t16670 
 
Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is CO with J<img src=”https://tournamentpokeredge.com/images/diamond.png” alt=” of diamonds” /> J<img src=”https://tournamentpokeredge.com/images/club.png” alt=” of clubs” /> 
UTG raises to t600, 3 folds, MP2 calls t600, Hero raises to t2400, 4 folds, MP2 calls t1800 
 
Flop: (t6075) 6<img src=”https://tournamentpokeredge.com/images/spade.png” alt=” of spades” /> 6<img src=”https://tournamentpokeredge.com/images/heart.png” alt=” of hearts” /> K<img src=”https://tournamentpokeredge.com/images/heart.png” alt=” of hearts” /> (2 players) 
MP2 checks, Hero checks 
 
Turn: (t6075) 4<img src=”https://tournamentpokeredge.com/images/heart.png” alt=” of hearts” /> (2 players) 
MP2 bets t2100

th1986

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January 1, 2011 - 1:00 pm

not sure what i did wrong on the HH converter but here is raw HH

folding turn seems week , not sure if we just peel or jam it on in? If we peel I'm not sure what our plan is on K/Q/A or heart rivers….. really interested though on flop decision , not sure i like my check back with a PSB left

PokerStars Game #55182335659: Tournament #346010326, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit – Level VIII (150/300) – 2011/01/01 12:10:49 ET
Table '346010326 145' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: th1986 (10145 in chips)
Seat 2: Karagouna (21925 in chips)
Seat 3: capitã69 (11860 in chips)
Seat 4: mik95 (9625 in chips)
Seat 5: kdcl (14515 in chips)
Seat 6: HSV !887 (7480 in chips)
Seat 7: loaner4u (5465 in chips)
Seat 8: LilShark126 (13862 in chips)
Seat 9: aqua7777 (16670 in chips)
th1986: posts the ante 25
Karagouna: posts the ante 25
capitã69: posts the ante 25
mik95: posts the ante 25
kdcl: posts the ante 25
HSV !887: posts the ante 25
loaner4u: posts the ante 25
LilShark126: posts the ante 25
aqua7777: posts the ante 25
capitã69: posts small blind 150
mik95: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to th1986 [Jd Jc]
kdcl: raises 300 to 600
HSV !887: folds
loaner4u: folds
LilShark126: folds
aqua7777: calls 600
th1986: raises 1800 to 2400
Karagouna: folds
capitã69: folds
mik95: folds
kdcl: folds
aqua7777: calls 1800
*** FLOP *** [6s 6h Kh]
aqua7777: checks
th1986: checks
*** TURN *** [6s 6h Kh] [4h]
aqua7777: bets 2100
th1986:

RedFivez

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January 1, 2011 - 5:45 pm

start by cbetting the flop

smm979

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January 1, 2011 - 7:37 pm

After you 3 bet pre, you really have to cbet this flop. Obv sometimes he has a K, but I’m cbetting here 100% of the time. As played, when he leads the turn, i just toss it.

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January 1, 2011 - 8:02 pm

Yea, I think if you c-bet the flop Aqua7777 will come out of the bushes if he has a 6 or K.

At that tournament and level I'd be surprised if he would slowplay trips or top pr; he is worried about you holding K due to your pre raise.

th1986

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January 1, 2011 - 9:56 pm

thanks. flopcheck is where i felt the most butchering went on in the hand.. turn i called where i should of folded , and river folded to the A non heart drop.

are we bet / folding ? if so what should we bet?

if were bet / calling im thinking bet small to induce worse to shove and get it in ? i imagine we will also get a lot of c/calls by a 50vpip guy too. stubborn small pairs. maybe evne an aj / a10 that wants to peel.,.. looking back in hem he is 5% post flop agression which is pretty darn agressive.

or shove. 7k to take down 6k , he's not folding a king or a six , aa . if he calls a shove with QQ he's likely to call 77-1010 imo. and him having aa/qq are less likely than the mid pairs. (he flatted a UTG raise , who folded to my 3bet , and he just flats again.) and plays 50% of his holdings . and from my experience with these 40+ vpip , they have a no fold draw policy once getting to the flop so i expect any 2 hearts to stick around.

we barely have over a pot sized bet (pot 6k , stack 7k) . my instinct says bet / folding can't be right given our stack and the pot , and the slight possibility he can have a FD if he c/r us , also if we bet small to induce he could very well ship 77-1010 i would think or at the very least c/call .

th1986

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January 1, 2011 - 11:09 pm

sorry for the story , just wanted to put my thoguht process on the hand so it can possibily be poiinted out where my thinking is wrong.

and the 40 hands on him are after the rebuy period fwiw. and i busted out 6 hands later shoving 16bigs from btn with an ace so in game had 35 hands.

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January 2, 2011 - 11:32 am

I really don't mind a shove pre with the extra chips in the pot from the caller. You have 33bbs, it's not like you're 100bb deep. Raising puts you in post flop spots just like the one you are in a lot and makes JJ really hard to play when an overcard flops often. One thing I've gotten from working with bigdog is to try to not put yourself in spots where you are going to fold and be left with 20bbs. If you are faced with a decision in this BB range then it's time to go for the giant stack or pass on it.

As for the flop action, I find it hard to believe he would c/r a 77-TT. You can bet less than 1/2 pot and fold to a c/r as he'll have a K here almost always if he does that.

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