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Poker Stars $5.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 – 9 players
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patty009 (MP1): BB = 29.7, t47468
Dragon_JD (MP2): BB = 60.9, t97386
Suuska 2nd (CO): BB = 95.0, t152063
maryc1955 (BTN): BB = 29.5, t47157
lince10 (SB): BB = 23.0, t36841
Hero (BB): BB = 30.5, t48804
poquerman86 (UTG): BB = 25.0, t40003
hi farmer1 (UTG+1): BB = 10.9, t17475
knockuinamin (UTG+2): BB = 81.3, t130088
Pre Flop: (t3750) Hero is BB with J
J
poquerman86 raises to t4000, 7 folds, Hero raises to t9600, poquerman86 raises to t39853 all in, Hero calls t30253
Flop: (t81856) 3 5 3 (2 players – 1 is all in)
Turn: (t81856) 8
(2 players – 1 is all in)
River: (t81856) 5
(2 players – 1 is all in)
Always unsure about these types of spots. Only played 4 hands with the villian so no reads there. But what do i do with a UTG raise and i have JJ. I feel like i should be 3betting here because smaller pocket pairs, A9+ maybe KQs are all in his range. Should i just flat here and take a flop? but then board comes like it does and what do i do or with over cards and i have to fold to a c-bet. Do i have enough in my stack to raise fold pre? I'm leaning towards the last option but i'm not sure.
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July 20, 2010
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im 100% 3 bet calling in that spot as well. wp imo
Really? are you not running into a bigger hand just too much of the time, i mean his line is pretty strong, raise UTG then shove on a big blind 3bet. How much of the time are we against a weaker hand?
DaKid said:
Really? are you not running into a bigger hand just too much of the time, i mean his line is pretty strong, raise UTG then shove on a big blind 3bet. How much of the time are we against a weaker hand?
I'd wouldn't be happy getting it in here either… UTG smells like a monster!
I would time bank here….then factor in a few things even though we don't have much history with villian.
I would look at his country of origin. I would look at how quickly he four bet jammed. Then I would would pokerdb him and find out his stats.
Then I would make an educated guess as to what this player might be capable of, then act accordingly.
Its not always as black and white as, I had JJ, he four bet from UTG, so I must be beat, or I must call.
Poker is a game of information. Against an unknown in this spot, it is prob a fold imo, as you are at best racing against AK most of the time.
If this guy is from Finland, is a winning player, and 4 bet quickly, it's a snap call.
Side Note: you're 3 bet is fairly small, which is screaming a big hand, and he still 4 bets.
IMO, for him to 4 bet jam in this spot, after you've shown extreme strength, you are VERY rarely ahead here with JJ.
So most people think its a 3bet pre? Does anyone flat pre? As played he snap jammed so kingten is probably right that this is a fold then.
I like a 3bet as well but I definitely think we can fold to his jam. His line represents 10's+ or AK. Your stack is big enough to 3bet/fold.
DaKid said:
So most people think its a 3bet pre? Does anyone flat pre? As played he snap jammed so kingten is probably right that this is a fold then.
I don't hate flatting pre.
July 3, 2010
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I flat and check/jam when an A or K doesn't flop. Strongest line IMO.
When you 3 bet JJ here the villain should be folding a lot of smaller pairs and the weaker Ax hands he'd open.
When he 4 bet jams your equity vs. that range really sucks.
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