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November 18, 2014
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No Limit Holdem Tournament PokerStars
9 Players
$10+$1
Blinds 300/600 9
UTG moertelmu 11,394
UTG+1 fenman77 10,852
MP1 shattock 23,931
MP2 Hero 25,662
MP3 PatGarrett01 15,036
CO rudddd 17,296
D LudiKK 11,058
SB KoJIkA777 6,391
BB vlad6710 24,210
9 1,440 Hero is MP2 J J
2 folds, shattock raises to 1,500, Hero raises to 4,000, PatGarrett01 goes all-in 14,976, 3 folds, vlad6710 goes all-in 24,150, shattock folds, Hero folds
2 45,466, 2 all-in 6 4 8
2 45,466, 2 all-in 6
2 45,466, 2 all-in 7
vlad6710 shows a pair of Sixes 3 A
PatGarrett01 shows two pair, Nines and Sixes 9 9
PatGarrett01 wins 36,292 (net +21,256)
vlad6710 collects 9,174 (net –15,036)
shattock lost 1,560
Hero lost 4,060
I thin that is a pretty reasonable fold on that spot. What do you think about the 3bet vs flat or a small 3bet?
June 2, 2013
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I actually don´t 3bet that early, if V shove or 4bet me I will feel weird with JJ, i prefer to call and play pos flop with all V´s range.
As played I fold too, way too many action I guess.
February 20, 2015
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I easily fold in this spot, but I also wonder whether that’s too tight. If I flat to set up the squeeze pre, I would call the first shove, but I would probably fold after the second shove. I bet that’s the wrong play, though, absent reads.
December 30, 2015
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I look at it this way. After we 3-bet to this size the 4-bet probably doesn’t expect to have much fold-equity. Then the 5-bet shoves knowing all of this as well. I have to think I’m behind two people who don’t care if they put their entire stack at risk in a potential 3-way all-in. I’m thinking at least one, if not both, are QQ+, AQ+. If I hold QQ I may still fold since I block AQ and another QQ, making me think the range is even tighter at KK+, AK+. Best case scenario is both have AK. Plugging in my range estimates where the 4-better may be a little wider with TT+ I get what looks like a pretty clear fold to me:
| Hand | Equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| JJ | 26.53% | 156,137 | 6,830 |
| TT+,AQ+ | 31.92% | 170,880 | 42,035 |
| QQ+,AQ+ | 41.55% | 230,948 | 37,516 |
…This is all read-less but even if 1 may be shoving wide I doubt both are.
I wouldn’t get too results-oriented about what these particular Vs ended up holding. The 5-bet is pretty awful IMO. Here is an adjusted range that represents the implied tendencies of these Vs.:
| Hand | Equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| JJ | 35.73% | 208,267 | 12,884 |
| 99+,AQ+ | 40.08% | 234,127 | 13,365 |
| A2s+,AT+,22+ | 24.20% | 141,705 | 7,704 |
September 30, 2013
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I don’t mind the 3-bet at all. Calling this early might induce other players to call behind and we really don’t want to play a multiway pot with JJ.
As played it’s an easy fold and just set up the notes on both players. 99 should fold unless you and opener have loose stats and A3 has no business being involved.
If it folds around to the opener it really depends on his stats. Is he loose, tight etc. and do we have any reads on him. I would likely fold to a shove not wanting to risk 40bb and my tournament on a presumed flip or worse. Best case scenario he has 1010 or 99 and even that is unlikely being that deep and in early position for him to 4bet.
I also think that we act a bit to early to think we can induce a light squeeze. I would have liked a call better if we were on the CO or the BTN.
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