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JJ...Facing 5bet (Raiser originally limped UTG+1)

BBird40

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May 6, 2010 - 10:24 pm

PokerStars Game #43720118666: Tournament #309010964, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold’em No Limit – Level VIII (150/300) – 2010/05/06 21:18:31 CT [2010/05/06 22:18:31 ET]
Table ‘309010964 130’ 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: dojadogg (7530 in chips)
Seat 2: zeus121996 (9685 in chips)
Seat 3: croulo (11665 in chips)
Seat 4: Custo80 (9145 in chips)
Seat 5: DECANISIMO (12651 in chips)
Seat 6: auch309 (9200 in chips)
Seat 7: miroac (14600 in chips)
Seat 8: vancuren111 (8668 in chips)
Seat 9: BBird40 (17215 in chips)
dojadogg: posts the ante 25
zeus121996: posts the ante 25
croulo: posts the ante 25
Custo80: posts the ante 25
DECANISIMO: posts the ante 25
auch309: posts the ante 25
miroac: posts the ante 25
vancuren111: posts the ante 25
BBird40: posts the ante 25
Custo80: posts small blind 150
DECANISIMO: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BBird40 [Jh Js]
auch309: folds
miroac: calls 300
vancuren111: calls 300
BBird40: raises 685 to 985
dojadogg: folds
zeus121996: folds
croulo: folds
Custo80: folds
DECANISIMO: folds
miroac: calls 685
vancuren111: raises 685 to 1670
BBird40: raises 1015 to 2685
miroac: folds
vancuren111: raises 5958 to 8643 and is all-in
BBird40: ?????

Ok I am getting 2 to 1…..Honestly though I do not think I have a 33% chance to win this hand….What do you guys think?

What range you put this guy on? He is new to table for about 10 hands, he has been very quiet, just playing his hands in the blinds.

My thought is JJ+, AK.

I am going to throw that into pokerstove and see what it is. I honestly don’t think its good enough to call, what u guys think?

plessis204

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May 8, 2010 - 5:13 am

you have 36% equity vs. QQ+/AK, and it’s a $2 tourney, so he’s probably wider than that. As played, it’s a call given those ranges, but I think 4betting here is whack, and for a few reasons. By 4betting, you are:

-giving him a chance to fold hands that you dominate (AJ-, TT-, god forbid KJ-)

-inflating the pot when he has something better than JJ, as in QQ-AA, which he is never ever folding.

-make you think about folding JJ when he has a hand that you have good equity against (AK, AQ, 99,TT,JJ, bluffs?)

so essentially, he can play almost perfectly against you if he has half a brain.

He’s giving you a great price when he clicks it back to you as a 3bet, and has defined his hand pretty well (though there is another dude in the pot, so meh), which makes me want to flat and play postflop in position.

DaBlasphemer

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May 9, 2010 - 7:36 pm

Why are you 4 betting if you are planning to fold? If you are folding to a shove then your 4bet becomes a bluff because you are planning to fold so you are 4betting with ATC with that line.

Also you could make it 1100-1200 preflop and 4bet to 3600-3800, that will give you a better price on the shove.

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