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JJ Facing 4-Bet Against Agressive Player at The Bubble
mike666
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July 16, 2014 - 2:39 pm
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So we were at the bubble at this moment and me and villain were also chipleaders. 
Villain was pretty agressive 30/27 after 40 hands and on the other table I did tribet his late opens twice 
(we didn't get it to showdown) when I was onto his immediate left. 
I was playing pretty aggressively in general and it seemed like he was annoyed 
because of my tribets and blamed me in chat. Didn't have any reads on his postflop play.
 
What are you thoughts about the hand in general and what do you think hero should do?
 
UTG (70154)
UTG +1 (145536)
MP1 (171034)
MP2 (48725)
HIjack (221600)
CO (107852)
Button (82191)
SB (158399)
BB Hero (183792)

Blinds 1500-3000 Ante 430

PRE-FLOP

4 fold
Hijack raises 3000 to 6000
3 fold
Hero raises 9000 to 15000
Hijack raises 9000 to 24000
Hero calls 9000

FLOP

[2s 4d 5d]

Hero checks
Hijack bets 19500
Hero calls 19500

TURN

[8d]

Hero checks
Hijack bets 39000
Hero calls 39000

RIVER

[9h]

Hero checks
Hijack bets 100500

Hero?
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I'd keep raising pre and be ready to get it in. We're talking about 60BB against a relatively late position opener with whom you apparently have a very aggressive dynamic already establish. I don't think it's unrealistic at all that a 5-bet could induce a light 6-bet.

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So Andrew you dont think that playing it like OP did is a valuable option ? 
I mean flatting the 4b and keeping all villain's bluffing range in the hand seems fine to me, what am i  “doing wrong” ?

is it the fact that with a hand like jacks there are going to be many runouts (Axx, KQx, AQxx etcetc) that will put us in thoug spots ? 

 

FWIW I would have played it like you did mike (obv calling river)

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The problems with flatting are:

1. A lot of his bluffs have pretty good equity against JJ plus some actually good post-flop bluffing opportunities so raising again is preferable to letting them see the flop even if he folds often to the raise. Jacks are really not a very good postflop bluff catcher.

2. I don’t think another raise is going to fold out all of Villain’s bluffs.

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