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Hey so I've already discussed this with Kuroshi and a few members but just thought I'd get some further input. The villain has been pretty active raising UTG with A9o most recently and mixing it up at the table. I havn't played one hand since I had been moved to the table so figured it was a typical blind steal. I thought the all-in was pretty standard, but a fold could also be justified. Whats your play here? Are we tightening are range to a min. raise, etc? As i said in the topic 37 left deep in the money.
Full Tilt Poker Daily Double – B No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t2000/t4000 Blinds + t500 – 7 players
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2s2thetop (CO): BB = 18.4, t73772
Pokerace 87 (BTN): BB = 37.6, t150558
Yanpoff (SB): BB = 26.8, t107306
YYZKID87 (BB): BB = 9.7, t38970
the ethos (UTG): BB = 25.6, t102455
manuxx9 (UTG+1): BB = 10.8, t43094
Battle_Puma (MP): BB = 8.1, t32244
Pre Flop: (t9500) YYZKID87 is BB with J
5
5 folds, Yanpoff raises to t8000, YYZKID87 raises to t38470 all in, Yanpoff calls t30470
Flop: (t80440) 5
6 8
(2 players – 1 is all in)
Turn: (t80440) Q (2 players – 1 is all in)
River: (t80440) 2 (2 players – 1 is all in)
July 3, 2010
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Pretty sure villain is never feeling like he can raise/fold here.
October 6, 2010
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if i am villain, i am never min raising into a 10bb stack unless i am snapping off when i get shoved on.
bennymacca said:
if i am villain, i am never min raising into a 10bb stack unless i am snapping off when i get shoved on.
I understand that if were doing it we're never folding to a 10bb stack.. I guess what i should be asking is how often are we ahead here and how light should I actually be shoving given the situation…
October 6, 2010
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i think a min raise here is actually pretty tight – i would open shove most things.
tbh, depending on villain, this could be JJ+ AQ+ and thats it, i would open shove everything else
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July 20, 2010
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villain not shoving screams big hand or that there awful but there never folding so i prolly muck and get it in in the next 7 hands
I have check/fold clicked here before the action gets to me so I'm never tempted to make this move.
It's one thing if you have fold equity, but you definitely don't.
Even if he flips over like 7/8s (which he's probably shoving on you, not min raising) you're still only 51% to win.
In situations like this I try to ask myself (knowing they aren't folding 95% of the time) did I really just play 6-7 hours to lose this deep with j/5?
October 6, 2010
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Sakred said:
I have check/fold clicked here before the action gets to me so I'm never tempted to make this bad of a play.
It's one thing if you have fold equity, but you definitely don't.
Even if he flips over like 7/8s (which he's probably shoving on you, not min raising) you're still only 51% to win.
In situations like this I try to ask myself (knowing they aren't folding 95% of the time) did I really just play 6-7 hours to lose this deep with five jack off?
This looks to me like Q/Q, K/K or A/A, and he wanted to give you as much rope as possible to hang yourself with.
I'd say you're ahead < 15% of the time (being generous), and racing most times you are “ahead”…. unless of course he's a massive donkey and you're a narcissist looking for reinforcement of bad play, posting a hand where you make a thin shove and the dude flips 9/10 and you lose the race.
Sorry if this came across as me being a ****, that's just my own narcissism kicking in.
You're right. I was in a mood when I posted that. There was no need to be insulting, even if only conditionally in a hypothetical situation of my own imagination.
I'm sorry, yyzsicko, for the inflamatory tone of my post. I hope I didn't offend you.
i snap fold this no problem, even if it was a steal. he has chips and is never folding to ur shove. you can find a better spot, hopefully within the next couple of hands. i also think you are not ahead that often with that hand, would feel alot more comfortable with a 78s,910s. can you post the results of the hand would like to know what he had.
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