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ITM in saturday 6max, donk bet by fish
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August 5, 2012 - 8:05 pm
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$20+$2|1500/3000 NL (6 max) – Holdem – 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: …..racker.com

SB: 115,203.00
BB: 139,526.00
UTG: 190,630.00
Hero (CO): 131,491.00
BTN: 181,129.00

SB posts ante 300.00, BB posts ante 300.00, UTG posts ante 300.00, Hero posts ante 300.00, BTN posts ante 300.00, SB posts SB 1,500.00, BB posts BB 3,000.00

Pre Flop: (6000.00) Hero has Ac 7c

fold, Hero raises to 6,000.00, fold, SB calls 4,500.00, BB calls 3,000.00

Flop: (19500.00, 3 players) Ad 6s Tc
SB checks, BB bets 9,750.00, Hero calls 9,750.00, fold

Turn: (39000.00, 2 players) 4c
BB bets 19,500.00, Hero calls 19,500.00

River: (78000.00, 2 players) 8h
BB bets 39,000.00, Hero??????
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i have been running over table
BB is a fish and UTG is a sicko reg so i havent been playing many hands v him,
previously bb donk/check/check called A3 on a 45Jxx board
where i opened QJ, he donk lead and shut down oop and hero'd river
villain is running at 19/11/0 but had significantly loosened up,(109 hands)
will def be flatting AJ A10 imo, maybe AQ. last time he donk lead on a dry J high board i raise/folded to him.
I dont think/think its quite unlikely he is capable of tripling air here. 

also villian has abi of like $3 and 500 profit toal

how should i play every street?
when hand went down about 35 left in saturday 22 6max.

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August 6, 2012 - 8:26 am
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I am raising his donk lead on the flop all day long. You will take it down a bunch or at least find out where you are at then evaluate turn action if he does call.

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August 6, 2012 - 8:29 am
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should be worth mentioning on last flop i raised his donk on a Jxx board and he 3bet me.

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hawkeyeK9 said:

I am raising his donk lead on the flop all day long. You will take it down a bunch or at least find out where you are at then evaluate turn action if he does call.

I dont understand your logic at all? why do we want to tid a bunch in position with top pair facing a wide range on the flop?

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I play exact same way on every street and fold river as he's probably never 3 barreling with worse. No sense in raising on the flop. By flatting we keep a ton of his worse pairs and draws in. Flat on the turn is standard as we now have the nut draw and if we have raise and he jams or something crazy we have to fold I guess. I assume you folded. If so wp.

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hawkeyeK9 said:

I am raising his donk lead on the flop all day long. You will take it down a bunch or at least find out where you are at then evaluate turn action if he does call.

Why do we want to take this pot down? He's not folding a better hand, and its a super dry board so its not likely he donking a draw. He might call our raise with a smaller ace, but we can get anther street from him anyway with his worse hands. I think JLUDEOBV is right and we should just flat flop/turn and then fold river. From the villains description he's not donking 3 streets with a worse hand it looks like. He also never has “air” here when donking into 2 ppl. 

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JLUDEOBV said:

I play exact same way on every street and fold river as he's probably never 3 barreling with worse. No sense in raising on the flop. By flatting we keep a ton of his worse pairs and draws in. Flat on the turn is standard as we now have the nut draw and if we have raise and he jams or something crazy we have to fold I guess. I assume you folded. If so wp.

 

I never disagree with jlude, its so sick.

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TiltedEV said:

JLUDEOBV said:

I play exact same way on every street and fold river as he's probably never 3 barreling with worse. No sense in raising on the flop. By flatting we keep a ton of his worse pairs and draws in. Flat on the turn is standard as we now have the nut draw and if we have raise and he jams or something crazy we have to fold I guess. I assume you folded. If so wp.

 

I never disagree with jlude, its so sick.

+1 to this. wink

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Talked to duggs about this in the Skype chat the other day, but jludeobv has nailed this thread so no need for me to repeat the same thing.

I think raising the flop is really bad as we are turning our hand into a bluff.

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I stand mega corrected. I am raising donk leads all day when I was preflop agressor and I wiff the flop. Didn't look at this enough.

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