No real reads on villian. I have been active for sure. What do you guys make of it?
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b31fry (SB): BB = 7.4, t29766
petehasaplan (BB): BB = 14.2, t56644
TheSap (UTG): BB = 16.9, t67528
SweetNat123 (UTG+1): BB = 14.5, t57809
tARshEHT (MP1): BB = 94.4, t377681
WhiteSlave (MP2): BB = 27.0, t107942
Hero (CO): BB = 45.6, t182257
BigE50 (BTN): BB = 9.9, t39582
Pre Flop: (t9200) Hero is CO with 6 8
4 folds, Hero raises to t8000.00, 2 folds, petehasaplan calls t4000
Flop: (t21200) 6 4 5 (2 players)
petehasaplan checks, Hero bets t7100.00, petehasaplan raises to t49646.00, Hero ?
Assuming villain is a donk for defending here with only 14 bb's I think you have to call when he jams. You are ahead of way too many hands that he's potentially jamming. He may jam 7x 5x 4x 3x. Who knows. If you are behind you for sure have outs. Plus if you win the pot it puts you at about 240k = 60 bb's. Losing it puts you at 130k = 22 bb's. I think I take the higher variance route here and get it in.
Against Pete, I would probably call here too. Still got outs to potential nuts too.
Also from a planning stand point, I assume Pete to be a capable player so with you being aggro like you said, I think they'll assume you will cbet a high% too and he was prob planning on c/r a lot of flops anyway… So the reshipping range that Jlude listed makes a lot of sense here.
I am just wondering why he would flat here with 14bbs, I assume its because he's not very good so in that case you have to wonder what he could be holding. Obviously any pair but i doubt he would jam 4s, 5s, or 6s in on this flop he'd prob just smooth call. 3s are a possibility and 7s are definitely a posibility. I find that players like this tend to call with lower to mid pairs rather than jamming just bc they don't realize the situation like we do and obviously have no clue about stacksize. However, if he is a donk as it seems he is he could easily be holding A4-A7 and just assume you just have high cards and can't call. That being said you are getting a little less than 2 to 1on a call here and have a decent amount of outs. Also, the fact that you've been very aggro widens his shoving range even more….. In the end I think you have to call as played
You guys were all spot on. I folded like an idiot and he shows 33 with the rabbit hunt option. I got gun shy slightly at this stage for no good reason, probably because I had bricked 20 tournies earlier that day . It is kinda ironic that I did not call that spot but ended my tourney with a triple barrel bluff to go out 12th. I am awesome.
As played, I'm never folding when i hit this flop like this. That being said brother, and I'm not being an ass or anything, as aggro and lag as I can be at this stage, I'm not raising this 14bb stack without full intentions of calling. I'm normally going to shove over and give him the tough decision though. I think that's the play when raising weaker or marginal stuff. I'm min raising anything solid to induce here. Other then that, I think its a ship or fold. The sb can't hurt, you and your only shoving 14bb effective. Ship or fold here dog! CANT BELIEVE YOU FOLDED HERE! LOL
Yeah I mean you flopped about as good as you could hope with that holding, and it's very possible villian just assumes you're cbetting with broadway cards. Weird he would flat 33 oop rather than ship it in there Preflop!
Actually had a similar hand the other day where I flopped middle pair on a low board and bet-folded like a huge puss. It happens!
Dasfix said:
Yeah I mean you flopped about as good as you could hope with that holding, and it's very possible villian just assumes you're cbetting with broadway cards. Weird he would flat 33 oop rather than ship it in there Preflop!
Actually had a similar hand the other day where I flopped middle pair on a low board and bet-folded like a huge puss. It happens!
Really though. This is elminatary here. Don't raise over a 7bb stack and a 14bb stack without full intentions of stacking off with either. They are shoving over far too often.
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