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early in a $2 ds tourney. no read on guy. he flats pre flop raise, and put him on pp. when he raises my lead i figure we're playing for stacks and it's still way early and i have plenty of chips and didn't see a reason to get further involved. just seems he could easily of hit his set or flatted with kk or aa
Absolute Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t20/t40 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge
LIKZDIK (MP1): BB = 145.6, t5825
WILLOWS (MP2): BB = 49.9, t1995
DJ HOWIE (CO): BB = 139.3, t5570
TMCK21 (BTN): BB = 161.3, t6450
DEREKLEE1000 (SB): BB = 228.9, t9155
THYLVETHTER (BB): BB = 214.0, t8560
DONLI8888 (UTG): BB = 100.3, t4010
JASONS1974 (UTG+1): BB = 125.0, t5000
9IRISH1999 (UTG+2): BB = 94.9, t3795
Pre Flop: (t60) TMCK21 is BTN with Q
Q
2 folds, 9IRISH1999 calls t40, 3 folds, TMCK21 raises to t, DEREKLEE1000 calls t-20, 1 fold, 9IRISH1999 calls t-40
Flop: (t40) 7 2 5
(3 players)
DEREKLEE1000 checks, 9IRISH1999 checks, TMCK21 bets t, DEREKLEE1000 raises to t, 9IRISH1999 folds, TMCK21 folds
Final Pot: t40
not sure if this is clear. i don't see bet sizes.anyway,1 limper, i raise to 120 sb calls. 400 in pot. he checks i lead for 320 and get raised to 1360
I call and evaluate the turn, he could have a draw, an over pair to the board or just FOS.
yeah, felt like i would be chasing and not comfy putting chips in. i flashed my fold and he showed 99. but it seems like that situation comes up often and i get the worst of it. but your i like the call and see what he does on turn. at the time it just felt like i was beat.
I think there's nothing wrong with deciding you're not stacking off w an over pair early with a million bbs. This is using that stack to pot ratio concept in Ed Millers book, “Proffessional No-Limit Hold 'Em” Vol 1, where you decide if the pot gets bigger than lets say 4x the preflop amount vs a standard player, and 6x vs a looser player (or with an over pp), that you will fold. Kind of an insurance policy that your not stacking off with a tp or op type hand when u have a ton of bbs.
But at the lower levels you may want to disregard this because so many bad players come out firing big bluffs, and over value tp and Ax type hands early. I think it's pretty interesting that it may be correct to play the same hands completetely differentely at diff buy-in levels.
tmck21 said:
yeah, felt like i would be chasing and not comfy putting chips in. i flashed my fold and he showed 99. but it seems like that situation comes up often and i get the worst of it. but your i like the call and see what he does on turn. at the time it just felt like i was beat.
I would never fold and show QQ on this board. If you do you are giving away too much info about how you think and play. FWIW if your folding QQ on this board you should probably fold pre.
July 3, 2010
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Way too tight to fold to a single raise. With stacks this deep I guess I do call and evaluate the turn. If a non-spade comes I'm likely sticking in a large bet and getting it in.
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