Poker Stars $10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t15/t30 Blinds – 9 players
The Grass (BTN): t5820 194 BBs
javirodal (SB): t6340 211.33 BBs
2coyote (BB): t16230 541 BBs
rayytangg (UTG): t6000 200 BBs
AUBNICOLE (UTG+1): t5400 180 BBs
spicyal (UTG+2): t3290 109.67 BBs
Fodicatans (MP1): t5970 199 BBs
Hero (MP2): t2615 87.17 BBs
saldanhacida (CO): t2160 72 BBs
Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is MP2 with Q Q
1 fold, AUBNICOLE raises to t90, spicyal calls t90, Fodicatans raises to t420, Hero raises to t1900, 4 folds, AUBNICOLE raises to t5400 all in, 1 fold, Fodicatans raises to t5970 all in, Hero calls t715 all in
Flop: (t13550) K 4 2 (3 players – 3 are all in)
Turn: (t13550) 8 (3 players – 3 are all in)
River: (t13550) 8 (3 players – 3 are all in)
Are you trying to make your hand look incredibly scary by making it 1900 on your stack of 2615? You can flat Fodicatans raise but if the other guy re-raises all in afterward I probably don't fold even if both get in because it's a $10 tournament and they could both have AK or AK vs. JJ vs. your QQ, or sometimes even much worse like AJ, 88, etc…
July 3, 2010
Wein said:
i think I just flat the original 3-bet and play a flop.
More and more I am adopting this in early stages and it's been producing better results. I doubt this guy continues with anything less than like JJ+ and AQ/AQ so you're putting yourself into a flip spot almost 100% of the time early in an MTT when the goal should be to avoid those.
I agree with Weinaments and say to flat and then probably get it in on a flop that doesn't have an A or K. If you got coolered then oh well… gg him and move on.
FkCoolers said:
I doubt this guy continues with anything less than like JJ+ and AQ/AQ so you're putting yourself into a flip spot almost 100% of the time early in an MTT when the goal should be to avoid those.
I agree with Weinaments and say to flat and then probably get it in on a flop that doesn't have an A or K. If you got coolered then oh well… gg him and move on.
If we put opponents on JJ+ and AQ+, why we just not jam pre to get all this range in (if they want )?. JJ+ – 19 combos, AQ+ – 24 combos, more then 50% of time will be any A or K on the flop, so we dont get any more money from AQ+, which probably shut down after flop when missed. So most of their range will check/fold flop most of the time (i'm not sure that they are going to cbet into 2 people without hand).
Wein said:
i think I just flat the original 3-bet and play a flop.
my observation on the play is that we either fold pre or just shove. dont think we can ever flat here cause we're not ending all betting action. there has been a reraise so that gives the original raiser and caller a chance to act after our flat. i like a jam in this spot. we're still likely getting called and we're gonna have to fade some cards but I think we either get it in pre or just fold and I cant see folding in a 10$ tourny this early with QQ so I push and hope for the best.
bjizz
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