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January 15, 2014
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Hey Guys
When i saw this flop i asked myself what else did i want when calling preflop. But with the hands that have me beat here (KT, KJ, AQ) and them all being in his range, i felt i should shove or fold. Is that ridiculous? I guess in hindsight AQ doesnt bet pot there.
Poker Stars $3.19+$0.31 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50/t100 Blinds – 9 players – View hand 2459396
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
Hakkuh (MP1): t2155 21.55 BBs
slavskins (MP2): t1875 18.75 BBs
Hero (CO): t3255 32.55 BBs
gigikent7733 (BTN): t1795 17.95 BBs
Elusive GG (SB): t1860 18.60 BBs
bespaleva.92 (BB): t2660 26.60 BBs
kVect (UTG): t3275 32.75 BBs
Rustam II (UTG+1): t3255 32.55 BBs
pokerzoli73 (UTG+2): t2695 26.95 BBs
Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is CO with T
J
2 folds, pokerzoli73 raises to t200, Hakkuh calls t200, 1 fold, Hero calls t200, 2 folds, bespaleva.92 calls t100
Flop: (t850) J
K
T
(4 players)
bespaleva.92 checks, pokerzoli73 checks, Hakkuh bets t800, Hero folds, bespaleva.92 folds, pokerzoli73 folds
Final Pot: t850
Hakkuh wins t850
June 18, 2013
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Looking at this hand. It seems fishy that villan pots it on the flop. It screams either he was isolating with some sort of connection to on to the board with top pair or some sort of pocket pair 22 – 77. I believe he was protecting his lovely pp. If he had QT, AQ, AJ TT+ he would have definately not pot the flop.
I think on the Pre for you calling is fine. The 800 bet from villan you would have taken it down with a jam and he’d either fold or donate all his chips to you. I just don’t see him crushing you… I see him crushed.
January 15, 2014
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Yeah i thought that once i went back and looked at the hand again…i should have thought about it more at the time. When he bets pot i dont think he wants to get called. Live and learn. Thanks for the reply.
April 16, 2013
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I think he probably has a pair with straight draw or gutshot type hand. He's probably not folding but you will have the best hand sometimes. It's worth nothing that someone betting into 4 people is much stronger than in a heads up pot.I thionk getting your whole stack in postflop or just folding now is better than calling once then folding later when nothing changes. So you didnt take the worst option in my opinion.
I think “what else did I want” thinking on the flop is flawed. You didnt have the information preflop that he was going to make a pot size bet into 4 people. You could also flop a flush or top 2 pair on a less connected board. This is a good situation but not the best spot for JTs. He could have just check folded when you both miss too.
It's also worth noting your range. This 2 pair is not the top of your range. You have straights, top 2 pair, pair/straight draws in your range too so if he is barreling 22-77 (which i dont think is likely) he will be giving you all his chips very often.
Im a little hungover so i hope some of that made sense
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