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PokerStars Game #50850960196: Tournament #334010516, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit – Level IX (200/400) – 2010/10/09 16:49:56 ET
Table '334010516 554' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: SharpLuck (23805 in chips)
Seat 2: scheisserle (9659 in chips)
Seat 3: Victor Grand (13670 in chips)
Seat 4: bab6969 (7743 in chips)
Seat 5: Brnky777 (41710 in chips)
Seat 6: Kensy111 (13674 in chips)
Seat 7: tjeute777 (9265 in chips)
Seat 8: staks2spind (28840 in chips)
Seat 9: ASMATICOCAB (14110 in chips)
SharpLuck: posts the ante 50
scheisserle: posts the ante 50
Victor Grand: posts the ante 50
bab6969: posts the ante 50
Brnky777: posts the ante 50
Kensy111: posts the ante 50
tjeute777: posts the ante 50
staks2spind: posts the ante 50
ASMATICOCAB: posts the ante 50
bab6969: posts small blind 200
Brnky777: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to staks2spind [Jh Js]
Kensy111: folds
tjeute777: folds
staks2spind: raises 440 to 840
ASMATICOCAB: folds
SharpLuck: folds
scheisserle: raises 8769 to 9609 and is all-in
Victor Grand: calls 9609
bab6969: folds
Brnky777: folds
staks2spind: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qs 3c 7s]
*** TURN *** [Qs 3c 7s] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 3c 7s Qc] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
scheisserle: shows [Td 9d] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
Victor Grand: shows [Kh Th] (a pair of Queens)
scheisserle collected 21108 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 21108 | Rake 0
Board [Qs 3c 7s Qc 9c]
Seat 1: SharpLuck folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: scheisserle showed [Td 9d] and won (21108) with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 3: Victor Grand (button) showed [Kh Th] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: bab6969 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Brnky777 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Kensy111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: tjeute777 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: staks2spind folded before Flop
Seat 9: ASMATICOCAB folded before Flop (didn't bet)
I think the fold is the right play, despite the outcome. U have a really nice stack and its still pretty early in tourny. You can def find better spots altho after seeing outcome this was indeed a great spot, part of playing micro's. Guy shove 24bb with 10-9s and then is called by villian with an effective stack of 34bb with K10s. Not much that u can do except making notes of their play.
bjizz
It seems read dependent, there is times I am not folding.
June 11, 2010
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I am not sure i say that folding straight up here is the right move. A lot of what I would do depends on what has been going on. Here is my line of thinking based on a couple of scenarios. In the future you may want to add some more relevant details about history, prior pots with villiains, etc. It is hard to answer situational questions without more on the situation.
1. If I had been active at the table then I would perceive this as he thinks he has a good spot to try to steal on me, I think I reshove as what I would expect to see is a a couple of Ax type hands, Kx type or PP's (a lot of which we have dominated here). The second guy in the pot is concerning, and there is no way he is going to fold, but him not reshoving and only calling lets me think that there is a good shot I am good here.
2. If I have been really quiet at the table, I would fold this. If I haven't been doing much of anything for a while and they know it and still see fit to jam over me, then I think I am out of there as someone has me crushed.
As put forward with no real information I think that I would reshove over this and try to get as much money as I can in there, as a 20bb stack at this point is starting to hope and is starting at the blinds so I would anticipate a really wide range for shoving here (not ATC, but probably in the 70% type area if he knows what he is doing). The flat here is just bad from the player behind so might as well punish him for his indiscretion. A lot of micro AI calling ranges are pretty bad so there is a pretty good chances we are really good here and prob just need to feign 3 outs (6 tops).
with VIctor's Grand's cold call of the overshove, I usually fold here… it should represent such strength, and I think we're being results oriented by thinking this is a call based on what the players turned up.
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July 20, 2010
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i think the move that is being made is directed at you and your stack. Your stack gives the impression that your very aggressive and opening alot of pots it vey well could have been a misclick once i seen his hand but obv you cant think that at the time. i take lots of shots like this at this point of tourneys and by winning these types of spots which will have to be taken eventually in the tourney you give yourself a huge shot in the arm to do so. play with a winners mentality and reship.
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