thanks for posting on this one Hag……I thought it might be close and probably on the fold side, but typically whenever I am in a spot that I think is really close like that I lean towards the aggressive play and shove…….good to know that I am closing in on a more optimal push/fold game.
I think this is a fold as well. An important part that you left out which could be the deciding factor is if there are antes involved or not and how big they are compared to the blinds.
Also, what are the stacks in the blinds and of players behind you? That could have an effect on potential calling ranges and drastically sway this from a boarderline fold into a clear push or clear fold.
As is based on the info you provided, I ran this through SnG Power Tools (recommed purchsing this to figure out these push/fold spots) and assuming you're utg with ATo with 14bb and no antes and everyone behind you covers, this is a -ev shove. I assigned what I thought to be proper standard calling ranges to each position. If your hand was suited, it's still -ev.
Assuming there are antes, your shove still comes out to be -ev, just slightly less than no antes, and this is still with ATs, so it's worse if your hand was offsuit. Now if you were one position later (UTG+1), this becomes a +ev shove, but barely and not even gaining a sb in chipEV (which is minimum you edge you should look for when considering a shove).
Most Users Ever Online: 2780
Currently Online:
47 Guest(s)
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
bennymacca: 2616
Foucault: 2067
folding_aces_pre_yo: 1133
praetor: 1033
theginger45: 924
P-aire 146: 832
Turbulence: 768
The Riceman: 731
duggs: 591
florianm1: 588
Newest Members:
Tillery999
sdmathis89
ne0x00
adrianvaida2525
Anteeater
Laggro
Forum Stats:
Groups: 4
Forums: 24
Topics: 12705
Posts: 75003
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 1063
Members: 12007
Moderators: 2
Admins: 5
Administrators: RonFezBuddy, Killingbird, Tournament Poker Edge Staff, ttwist, Carlos
Moderators: sitelock, sitelock_1