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Killingbird
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July 16, 2010 - 7:55 pm
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Original raiser is terribly bad.  Flat caller of my raise seems pretty good and i coolered him a few hands earlier.

Is this a set up?  Should I just go ahead and fold? 

 

Poker Stars $10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50/t100 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

cjsider (CO): BB = 23.6, t2355
ATHLETIC86 (BTN): BB = 54.8, t5480
dcholiday123 (SB): BB = 52.4, t5243
neIIIka (BB): BB = 26.3, t2625
BeefPatties (UTG): BB = 41.2, t4120
ffab1964 (UTG+1): BB = 12.6, t1255
killingbird (UTG+2): BB = 74.0, t7400
AAKK_Gambler (MP1): BB = 26.3, t2632
stpinterrain (MP2): BB = 28.9, t2890

Pre Flop: (t150) killingbird is UTG+2 with J[Image Can Not Be Found] J[Image Can Not Be Found]
1 fold, ffab1964 raises to t400, killingbird raises to t700, AAKK_Gambler calls t700, 5 folds, ffab1964 raises to t1255 all in

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RonFezBuddy
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not sure I understand the reason behind your raise size.  I’d make it 1200 to isolate.  

 

As played, I would just jam it here.  my guess is you’re ahead of their ranges but don’t want to let the caller see a flop for just 500 more.

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Killingbird
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July 16, 2010 - 8:34 pm
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i sometimes make these small raises (although I think i meant to make it 800 here) to iso the original raiser, but to not commit to many chips in the case that someone hehind raises or jams.

 

My thought here is that the flatter has to know it is all going in when it gets back around to OR.  And I think he knows I know that.

 

So when i raise and he flats i feel like it is with the plan to reship once the OR shoves.

 

Maybe im just over thinking things in the hand…

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My thoughts are  raise to about 1k-1200, if someone cold 4bets behind we have to give them some credit because of the fact that the action in front of them came from UTG+1, and UTG+2. That said the only two guys who really hurts our stack is the button and SB, I would fold to there jams but we would bet getting the right price imo if any of the other guys shoved.

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I would shove here. Doubt the flatter has QQ plus. Just shove iso it up and tid imo.

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+1

 

i make it 900 derek ppl will put u on a super tight range and just flat ur 3bet and check/fold bad boards sometimes when they woulda just shoved preflop to a little more in my experience.  900 lets you get away without being too small

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thanks for the feedback guys.  I did re-jam once the OR jammed,  and the flatter had KK.  But I think it’s just a cooler as it played out and there was not much I could do once I 3 bet.

 

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i agree with panda's raise amount, 900-975…… shove to iso

 

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