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I really screwed up last night! need some insight on my mistakes
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April 13, 2011 - 4:28 pm
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Ok, I couldnt get the hand converter to work for me, not sure why

 

hand #1

I have J5h in the BB and there are 2 limpers one from early & middle position, SB folds, blinds are 800-1600 150 ante and going up in 2 min. I have 57k chips and both opponents have just over 20k and have been playing tight horrible poker to this point (limp, check, call, fold) has been there game. I decide that this is an easy pot to pick up and just push 50k in the pot and get called by 55 from the first limper, I loose 22k of my stack

hand #2

I have Q6s in the SB and 2 limpers are in before it gets to me. I decide to just call (not happy with my decision here) 1000-2000 blinds 200 ante. flop comes 4Q5 rainbow and I check (I thought a check raise shove against a small bet will pick me up the pot) The player in the BB (that I lost the pot of 24k to) makes a 5k bet into 9400 pot, this to me looked like a bet to pick up the pot and he didnt have much maybe some weird straight draw or a 5 so I shove all in to pick up the 14k pot and he insta calls with Q5 to bust me.

 

How bad did I play these hands? I was really disapointed with my play..

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Hand 1 – yeah this works sometimes but it's really a bit too risky.  If you are going to do this i'd pick something with better equity like JTs.  It's not awful to be aggressive but you have a great stack and adding these little limps is not worth the risk.

 

Hand 2. – fold pre.  you need to flop two pair or a flush to really like your hand post, esp OOP.    Why are you check shoving.  Your hand actually has some value.  I'd call on the flop (depending on your stack size – don't know what it is here) and see what happens later.  What you did was destroy the equity you have.  You either want to make money from 2nd worst hand or get the best hand to fold.  Doubt a c/r does that.  Now, if calling on teh flop is unattractive because you're committing too much of your stack without knowing where you'll be on turn or river, then it's an even stronger case for folding pre.

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April 13, 2011 - 5:29 pm
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Thanks RonFez, I had a stack of about 28k before the start of hand #2. I spoke to a couple of friend about the hand afterwords and kinda came to the same conclusion as you. I just find myself always getting over aggressive with a big stack and trying to out play the bad players in poor spots, this is what happens.

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April 13, 2011 - 9:24 pm
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pretty much what RFB said. 

 

 

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April 14, 2011 - 4:59 am
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hand #2

Fold pre

14BB's is decent open shoving stack for the coming button, c/o and hijack

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April 14, 2011 - 9:24 am
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RonFezBuddy said:

Hand 1 – yeah this works sometimes but it's really a bit too risky.  If you are going to do this i'd pick something with better equity like JTs.  It's not awful to be aggressive but you have a great stack and adding these little limps is not worth the risk.

 

Hand 2. – fold pre.  you need to flop two pair or a flush to really like your hand post, esp OOP.    Why are you check shoving.  Your hand actually has some value.  I'd call on the flop (depending on your stack size – don't know what it is here) and see what happens later.  What you did was destroy the equity you have.  You either want to make money from 2nd worst hand or get the best hand to fold.  Doubt a c/r does that.  Now, if calling on teh flop is unattractive because you're committing too much of your stack without knowing where you'll be on turn or river, then it's an even stronger case for folding pre.

 

 

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