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I disagree with this reshove all-in pre flop with JTo
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December 14, 2018 - 12:53 am
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I am watching a TPE training video in which the following hand played out.

$55/50K

2500/5000, 500 ante

UTG (397,000) fold

MP (122,000) fold

Villain HJ (161,100) Raise 9,500

CO (259,000) fold

Hero BTN (102,000) All-in 102,000 with JTo

SB (110,000) fold

BB (71,000)

Villain folds

By hero’s account, villain had been competent to this point, wasn’t spewy, wasn’t opening crazy often or crazy light. Villain folded, so the reshove worked. But I don’t understand hero’s reshove. JTo reshoving there does not seem like a profitable play in the long run to me.

When I run it on Snapshove, at a seven-handed table if villain is opening up “normal” (25%) and has a “normal” calling range (11%), then a profitable reshoving strategy for hero is 77+, ATs+, AJo+, KQs .

JTo seems too light to reshove against a middle position open by a player who had not been getting out of line. With 20BB it seems to me that hero should have waited for a better spot. The reshove worked but I don’t agree with it.

Can anyone make the argument for me being wrong with my line of thinking?

When I run it on snapshove assigning villain a loose opening range (35%) and a loose calling range (15%), then a profitable reshoving strategy seven-handed for hero is 66+, A8s+, ATo+, KTs+, KQo, QTs+, JTs. Keep in mind Villain had not been opening this aggressively, but even if he had been snapshove says hero should not reshove JTo (although it is somewhat close).

For some additional food for thought, if everyone had folded to hero on the button preflop, snapshove still says it’s not a 20BB shove for hero with JTo (although it is very close). In this scenario, snapshove says hero can profitably shove 20BB as the first person in the pot with the following range: 22+, A2s+, A9o+, K7s+, KJo+, Q8s+, QJo+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s.

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December 14, 2018 - 1:56 pm
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I guess if hero is at a table of regs he might repop JTo as a bluff for balance. It will have decent equity vs villain’s calling range. I would understand it more if hero covered villain and it was an ICM spot.

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