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Hypothetical Range - What should we call with?
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May 25, 2015 - 4:37 pm
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This scenario happened on a 3xR hyper turbo that I was playing on Stars a bit ago, and it made me really start to ponder the math of things, and how we look at said math – and how much more I have to figure out with this math. I'm not going to post what hand was mine, because it's largely irrelevant.

To simplify the situtation, and not get into a long off topic discussion regarding EV and such, I'm changing the chips stacks around. 

Each player has 20000 chips. The blinds are 1000/2000. 300 antes. 3 players shove all in, and being so excited they just snap over their hands, so we know what they have. 

ATo

AKs

AKo

What is our calling range? I konw that we are obviously snap calling all pairs, folding all our Ax's. I'm more interested in the bottoms of our range. What's the worst kind of hands you are calling with?

As a second question, lets say you are the player with AKo and the other two have shoved and rolled their hands over before you act. Should you call, with one player left behind to act?

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May 25, 2015 - 10:01 pm
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Im too lazy to look it up now (you could do it yourself) but its probably exactly like you said, all pairs are good, everything else is at best a small favorite and not worth calling but it will depend on the tourney situation.

Ok, I had a brief look the AKo is around even money without blinds and antes, so it should be in the plus then, but not by much. I am not a hyper player and not familiar enough with them to know whether you should take all small edges there or I guess it could be better to be the aggressor mostly.

Also this scenario is not very helpful, it will not happen very often when you have three shoves in front of you that they are all Ax. If you would know what the others have, one would play a lot of hands differently obviously.

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I would think that mathematically you could actually call pretty wide here. Suited connecters like QJ or even low SC like 67s have pretty good equity ~40% against those 3 hands Given you've got to call 20k to win $65,700 I think these kind of calls could be correct here? You know 3 Aces are out so their chance of hitting a top pair are also reduced.

Whether the rebuy is in play could also be a consideration…

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I play quite a bit of hypers and have been positive on the bankroll side of it if so I’ll give my two cents here. If I’m the guy with ATo I’m opening 2.5x from the BTN, opening min from the SB or calling a similar raise in SB from the BTN villain, also calling any similar raise in the BB. Folding to any exceeding action like a big reraise or shove. The kicker is just not good enough most of the time here. Heads up I would call with AJ or reshove with AQ. Three way I will fold AJ and call AQs. The AKo I snap call and obviously the AKs I snap call. In a three man hyper you’ll see too many AQ shoves to not make that call every single time with any AK.

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