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This was a wierd shove from villian when so deep. I have notes on him saying “not stack aware,” and HM2 has him as a whale. He's got a very high vpip/pfr and this was only about 7 hands into HU. I have 100+ hands on him and tagged him as a big fish pretty early.
Is this an obv call? Cheers.
Cassava Poker $8.20 + $0.80 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t1500/t3000 Blinds – 2 players –
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
Hero (BB): t322394 107.46 BBs
BTN/SB: t241606 80.54 BBs
Pre Flop: (t4500) Hero is BB with A Q
BTN/SB raises to t6000, Hero raises to t15525, BTN/SB raises to t241306
March 8, 2013

Is this the first overshove you've seen today? If so, I agree with mike. If you have most information on what he does this with, I could maybe find a call, but even if he's doing this with the top 20% of the hands, you are only 58%, not great if you have a skill edge. If you have reason to remove QQ+, AQ+ from his range, it makes me much happier with a call, but I don't think that's necessarily true against this guy. Given the note he is stack-unaware, he may easily be doing this with AA, seeing you have shown strength and just wanting to get it in.

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December 6, 2012

Given your read, I probably would call after 3bing him. Have to disagree with Mark about folding if you know you have 58% equity – there's a lot of money already in the pot! However, if I knew he was prone to doing stuff like this, I think I wouldn't 3b him in the first place. I may post some HU MTT videos at some point, I have some pretty dramatic examples of how my play varies if I'm playing a weak player or a strong player. In the WCOOP HU I played a really weak player in Round 3 and my 3b% was like 5. The next round I played Eugene Katchalov and my 3b% was around 30. Big preflop pots really benefit the weaker player, is what I'm saying
March 8, 2013

Sorry for the confusion. I'm not advocating that you fold if you know you are 58%. I'm saying 58% is probably a best case scenario. That's if he takes this line with PokerStove top 20% of hands, 66+,A4s+,K8s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,A9o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo. I think this is extremely optimistic, and just used it as a best-case scenario. If he is instead doing it with a reasonable 4betting range, and just sizing wrong, say 99+,ATs+,KJs+,QJs,AJo+,KQo, you are 50%, which is a call cEV, but may be a fold depending on your skill edge. If he only makes this play cause he has a monster, say JJ+,AJs+,AQo+,KQo, you are 42.5%. Your pot odds require about 47% cEV, so it really depends how you weight different possibilities for what range this guy is shoving. Given OP's new information about what he's done this with before, I do think the first range is more reasonable than when I first posted. Given this info, I would call here, but to answer OP's question, no I definitely don't this it's an obvious call.
June 1, 2012

Foucault said:
Big preflop pots really benefit the weaker player, is what I'm saying
Thanks Andrew. This never occurred to me and will make a big difference in my decisions from now on. Any videos that you are able to produce regarding HU play would be great as I've always struggled with this
June 1, 2012

markconkle said:
Sorry for the confusion. I'm not advocating that you fold if you know you are 58%. I'm saying 58% is probably a best case scenario. That's if he takes this line with PokerStove top 20% of hands, 66+,A4s+,K8s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,A9o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo. I think this is extremely optimistic, and just used it as a best-case scenario. If he is instead doing it with a reasonable 4betting range, and just sizing wrong, say 99+,ATs+,KJs+,QJs,AJo+,KQo, you are 50%, which is a call cEV, but may be a fold depending on your skill edge. If he only makes this play cause he has a monster, say JJ+,AJs+,AQo+,KQo, you are 42.5%. Your pot odds require about 47% cEV, so it really depends how you weight different possibilities for what range this guy is shoving. Given OP's new information about what he's done this with before, I do think the first range is more reasonable than when I first posted. Given this info, I would call here, but to answer OP's question, no I definitely don't this it's an obvious call.
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Cheers Mark,
Some good points!
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