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how wide does our bluffing range have to be when we get OTR?
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#Game No : 690042129
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 690042129 *****
$150/$300 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 
Tournament #68613378 $3.60 + $0.40 - Table #22 9 Max (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: maurivar ( $6,920 )
Seat 2: tarzan1967 ( $8,942 )
Seat 3: buschola ( $13,666 )
Seat 4: bblk777 ( $17,103 )
Seat 5: coolpepper ( $11,138 )
Seat 6: london_ace ( $5,735 )
Seat 7: TSalvino ( $9,767 )
Seat 9: dajellyfish ( $26,458 )
Seat 10: MontyJACKK ( $9,935 )
dajellyfish posts ante [$40]
tarzan1967 posts ante [$40]
buschola posts ante [$40]
bblk777 posts ante [$40]
coolpepper posts ante [$40]
london_ace posts ante [$40]
MontyJACKK posts ante [$40]
TSalvino posts ante [$40]
maurivar posts ante [$40]
coolpepper posts small blind [$150]
london_ace posts big blind [$300]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to london_ace [ 2club, Kdiamond ]
TSalvino folds
dajellyfish folds
MontyJACKK folds
maurivar folds
tarzan1967 folds
buschola folds
bblk777 raises [$600]
coolpepper folds
london_ace calls [$300]
** Dealing flop ** [ 9spade, 8club, 5spade]
london_ace checks
bblk777 checks
** Dealing turn ** [ 6d ]
london_ace bets [$655]
bblk777 calls [$655]
** Dealing river ** [ Jheart ]
london_ace checks
bblk777 checks
 
 
 
 
hey hey!
 
 
Reads -limped on the button on 1 occasion, hero was on the bb during that hand , I raised it up which
they then folded. They seem to be playing pretty tight , not been active , apart from the odd raise here and there.
 
 
Terrible defend by hero i must say , no idea why i called pre, on the other side of the hand v will be raising really wide from the button so i 
just went with it ingame.
 
i decided to lead turn to represent the straight , when we got to the river though , i kinda changed my mind i thought to myself
well hey i may actually have some showdown value with k high here , i also remembered andrew telling me that if we bet with
most of our k high hands we are bluffing too much (something along those lines) so then i decided to change my plan and check
river , i know it sounds stupid but thats literally why i checked river because i thought maybe i have STD and my hand may be good.
 
anyhow , what i'm wondering now is , if i had bet the river to represent the straight should i just shove or bet small?my bluff
target would be Ax > A5/A8 maybe KQ/KJ/KT. I think theres a lot of value to get vilian to fold there non pair hands and weaker pairs
since it was pretty clear there range was very weak. I think i've got like 14-15bb behind when we get to the river maybe less 
so i think shoving river would of been okay.
 
i'd probably consider the river a number 4 spot (bluff all my air) and i really think i should be bluffing here with the bottom of my range which 
im pretty sure this is one of those hands for it.
 
 
thoughts?
 
 
cheers.
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Pre is kinda close against a weak player, I don't hate the call but wouldn't midn fold either especially if you've seen him open limp. I'm not wild about bluffing river, but I really hate bluffing turn.

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