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how to play this hand???
bjizzle44
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July 29, 2010 - 10:05 pm
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plan was to raise and hope i can hit a big flop. instead get 3bet with a caller. flop top pr no kicker. the lead bet and call seemed weak or really, really strong. i take my stand to see where im at. whn i make it to the river can i fold to this bet????

 

Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t10/t20 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

JayLetarte (BTN): BB = 100.0, t2000
steven447 (SB): BB = 100.0, t2000
GoVols420 (BB): BB = 100.0, t2000
TSmizzel (UTG): BB = 100.0, t2000
CherryKW'00' (UTG+1): BB = 100.0, t2000
BJIZZLE44 (UTG+2): BB = 100.0, t2000
sertaoagro (MP1): BB = 100.0, t2000
polkmn6 (MP2): BB = 100.0, t2000
Yura.tomsk (CO): BB = 100.0, t2000

Pre Flop: (t30) BJIZZLE44 is UTG+2 with 7 of hearts A of hearts
2 folds, BJIZZLE44 raises to t60, 4 folds, steven447 raises to t100, GoVols420 calls t80, BJIZZLE44 calls t40

Flop: (t300) 8 of hearts 8 of diamonds A of diamonds (3 players) 
steven447 bets t100, GoVols420 calls t100, BJIZZLE44 raises to t400, steven447 folds, GoVols420 calls t300

Turn: (t1200) J of diamonds (2 players)
GoVols420 checks, BJIZZLE44 checks

River: (t1200) 3 of clubs (2 players)
GoVols420 bets t500, BJIZZLE44 calls t500

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July 29, 2010 - 10:43 pm
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I would of folded to the three bet. Way to early to fight over small pots with A7s.

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July 30, 2010 - 12:55 am
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If you call the 3-bet this early it should strictly be looking to hit the nut flush or 2 pair.

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July 30, 2010 - 1:09 am
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dont put a penny in this pot. so the way you play this hand is dont!

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July 30, 2010 - 2:39 am
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I agree with maybe letting this go pre, but I honestly don't mind opening this with 100bb, just probably starting in the highjack.  The re-raise was also a min re-raise and this other guy cold called it, so I don't see how you can ever fold there getting 6-1.  The flop is where the hand is misplayed a little IMO.  The call from GoVols is suspicious, because he is never floating oop.  This means he has you crushed, slowplaying some weird 8, although idk if he is flatting that pre or not…most likely a better ace that he didn't want to 4-bet pre or a flush draw.  So I don't see much value in raising here.  I would fold after the bet and call on the flop if I was in the position, raising just makes sure only hands that beat you stay in I feel.  When he just calls your raise though, then checks the diamond turn and bets the river I can't see how that is not a flush. Your hand is basically a bluff catcher as your 7 doesn't even play on this board.  So I fold the river if I am in your spot, but also don't raise this hand in early position and fold on the flop.

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July 30, 2010 - 9:24 am
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It is way to early to be putting yourself into these kind of marginal spots. 1st hand of the tourney you have no information on anyone you don't have history with and there is a ton of clowny play at this buy-in. I let it go, yeah your deep, but what are you really playing for with this hand other than flopping the nut flush. Seems to be way to early to get marginal. Let it go, start collecting information on your table which you can use when things get shorter. As far as what the betting is telling you, he connected with the flop. My guess on the turn is you dodged a check/raise by checking behind so he decided to just value bet you, but I would expect more often than not he has you beat and pretty good at that. Like I said send it to the muck, no sense spewing half your stack away on a TP/crap kicker situation this early on, just makes it way to hard to recover.

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July 30, 2010 - 11:46 am
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kalamazoorob said:

I would of folded to the three bet. Way to early to fight over small pots with A7s.


No way.

We raise to 60 and he clicks it back to 100. Never fold there. The implied odds are far too great if you end up making a flush or trip 7's.

Not to mention someone else calls before it gets back to us so you should never fold pre here.

As TaiijiX said if you don't flop 2 pair or a flush draw and there's post-flop action, pitch it.

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July 30, 2010 - 11:48 am
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Never call the river here IMO. You're calling for a chop, basically. You're never winning the pot.

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Fold pre, as played call the raise. Call his flop bet and play accordingly from there.

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Fold to the raise? Everyone watched the preflop marginal spots theory vid or something lol? Ofcourse we have to put in the 40 extra. We're with 3 players to the flop and we can always hit flushes/flushdraws/2pair/trips. With the ace in the hand you have blockers against aces so it would be rare for someone to have that. The flopbet I call, raising is pretty bad and you will make them lay down all their worse hands. . Now they called, unles you hit your full house, don't put anything in the pot.

 

I'd call pre and call the flopbet. When the bets get bigger on the turn I let go

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