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MilesD11
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March 21, 2011 - 10:44 am
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We are down to three tables with 22 people remaining in a $550 buy-in, 8 places pay.  I have approx. 11 big blinds and I am in the big blind with A10 suited.  High Jack raises 2.5X (he has approx. 35 bb), which is his standard pre-flop raise from any position.  He had been raising and folding a lot when played back at.  I decided to push, he instantly called with AK and he holds up.  My question is whether this play is the right one or should I fold and wait for a better spot?

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March 21, 2011 - 1:44 pm
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pretty standard in my opinion. The fact that he woke up with a hand is results oriented. I make this shove all day.

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March 21, 2011 - 1:48 pm
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Cooler IMO. 11 BB with ATs…even shove…against a chronic CO raiser

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March 21, 2011 - 3:25 pm
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Although I don't play at your stakes, this does seem like a pretty standard shove.  Unlucky he actually had a hand

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March 21, 2011 - 6:24 pm
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I agree, I think it is the standard play as well.  Just wondering if there are other ways to play it, for instance, would flat calling and shoving on flop work well in this spot.  Not really looking at the result as it is what it is, just wondering if there are other ways to play this?

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March 21, 2011 - 6:33 pm
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Good play man. Sounds like from your read that you are way ahead of his late position open range. Don't sweat it.

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March 21, 2011 - 6:46 pm
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I tried to take an unconventional line (see my post about advice on a stars $5 rebuy a few threads below yours) with 15BB in a really standard shove spot using the stop and go you are suggesting. 

What tournament is this?  For such a large buy in and to pay only 8 kinda seems like a live tourny.  I would think this tourny would attract a lot of the HS regs.   If it is live, the stop and go would probably be more effective bc your opponents might not know what you are doing.  This strategy in a HS online tourny probably wont work as well bc the high stakes regs all know what this is and will call a lot lighter. 

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March 21, 2011 - 7:43 pm
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i dont think the stop and go is worth it because i think your hand still has value against villains calling range if you shove pre. i think with you only shoving 11bb, there are worse suited aces, KQ/KJ, lower pairs that we are flipping with, etc that we have good equity against. 

 

 

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March 21, 2011 - 10:10 pm
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jolvlomma said:

I tried to take an unconventional line (see my post about advice on a stars $5 rebuy a few threads below yours) with 15BB in a really standard shove spot using the stop and go you are suggesting. 

What tournament is this?  For such a large buy in and to pay only 8 kinda seems like a live tourny.  I would think this tourny would attract a lot of the HS regs.   If it is live, the stop and go would probably be more effective bc your opponents might not know what you are doing.  This strategy in a HS online tourny probably wont work as well bc the high stakes regs all know what this is and will call a lot lighter. 

This was a live tourny with mostly solid players left at this point.  The more I think about the hand the more I like the way I played it.  I need to double up and stop and go play doesn't really allow for it unless we both hit the flop.  Shoving pre-flop allows player to make the call with a hand I have beat or am flipping against.  

 

Thanks everyone for the feedback.

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March 21, 2011 - 10:25 pm
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Just wanted to point out in a live tourney on the bubble, folding is a vailid option.

 

Often live tourneys play so tight on the bubble you can jam any two from a variety of different positions. I'd much rather be the first one in a live pot than 3 bet jamming. That said, if villain is opening a wide range than a shove is fine.

 

 

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If villian is opening a lot shove is def fine.  Wanna give yourself the best chance at a top 3 cause thats typically where all the money is.

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