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August 24, 2015
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Hello! I am curious about a situation that pops up very often. What do you do when you flop either a Nut flush draw, a strong flush draw that might be considered the nut because its unlikely he has a better draw, a open ended str8 draw.
I wonder about all the different situations like when villain most likely has top pair and u have flush draw and little fold equity if u check jam. The list goes on and SPR has a ton to say here as well i believe(?).
So is there any books, articles, training video series that covers this topic in dept?? Hopefully for MTTs with a lot of short-mid stack situations and not only for cash game 100BB deep.
I would like to study it so that when i am multi tabling i can quickly assess the situation and see what is the best line.
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December 6, 2012
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I have a series on here about Bluffing that might be helpful to you. “Playing strong draws” is really not a topic unto itself. If you play them in a way that you would never play any other hand (ie overbet shoving the flop) you make yourself very easy to play against it.
The short answer is that they are usually very good bluffing hands, and it doesn’t take much fold equity at all to justify getting all in with them. Sometimes you are even a slight favorite against a made hand. Other times you are a slight dog but still do better by getting all in on the flop rather than having to fold on blank turns (there’s an example of this in Math. of Poker).
Most importantly, there are times when you don’t need to bluff at all. Ah Kh on a 2h 6h 2c flop has a very good chance of being the best made hand AND the best draw, so in that spot I wouldn’t be thinking in terms of fold equity at all.
I’m also a little concerned about your mention of spots where “villain most likely has top pair”. How do you determine something like that on the flop?
August 24, 2015
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Oki yes i have seen all your series absolutely love them.
It`s not often but for example a nit opens EP with RFI of 5% utg and u defend from BB, u flop nut flush draw on As 9s 4c board. you bet he 2b. He only does this with value hands and has shown he is afraid of flushed so u put him on AK-AQ. He is never folding to a 3b jam cause he is a fish c-station. SPR is like 20. Do you 3b or is it better to see what is coming? can be very deep in a MTT close to the FT u both have big stacks.
Might not be the most realistic situation but it can occur at times. Where u might not wanna put your entire stack in on a draw and rather see the cards when u have little fold equity and a big stack u want to preserve.
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August 25, 2012
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pokkerheller said
Oki yes i have seen all your series absolutely love them.
It`s not often but for example a nit opens EP with RFI of 5% utg and u defend from BB, u flop nut flush draw on As 9s 4c board. you bet he 2b. He only does this with value hands and has shown he is afraid of flushed so u put him on AK-AQ. He is never folding to a 3b jam cause he is a fish c-station. SPR is like 20. Do you 3b or is it better to see what is coming? can be very deep in a MTT close to the FT u both have big stacks.
Might not be the most realistic situation but it can occur at times. Where u might not wanna put your entire stack in on a draw and rather see the cards when u have little fold equity and a big stack u want to preserve.
If you’re talking about a situation where you have a draw and villain has a very strong range, it seems like you’ve answered your own question. If villain is never folding, why would you just decide to take your 38% equity and get it in at deep stacks? Without fold equity, playing draws less aggressively is entirely necessary.
Side note – As 9s 4c is a bad flop on which to employ a leading-out range from the BB. You want to be leading out on boards which give you a range advantage, and this one doesn’t.
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