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How to get rid of premium hands to a 3bet?
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June 25, 2015 - 9:36 pm
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I am a recreational player that is getting more serious about poker and want to play competitively on my days off.  Just started subbing here and have already seen a lot of improvement. THANKS

 

I am having a hard time letting go of some premium hands in 3bet situations.  Example: In a live tournament where I am above average stack size of around 15k I get QQ.  I raise to 3bb for 1200.  The button who is to my left reraises for 3k. Not many tells from this player except that he is aggressive and has put pressure on other when he has position.  I just shove and he insta calls. He flips over KK and wins the hand.  

Is it better if I just flat call the 3bet and wait to see flop.  If the flop is all low cards, I see myself still losing.  Any recommendations.

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June 25, 2015 - 11:39 pm
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What makes you think you should fold QQ here? When you have an extremely strong hand, your goal shouldn't usually be to avoid paying off an even stronger one. Rather, you should focus on winning the most from slightly weaker hands. You might find my Getting Paid series useful on this subject. Welcome to TPE!

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You are beeing results oriented. Which is normal when you are a rec player with minor experience, meaning you haven't played 50k or even 300k+ hands yet. On the long run getting in QQ vs a aggro re-raiser on the button will be a winning play with your stack sizes in this situation. Just move on to the next tournament. In poker there situations where you can't avoid losing the particualr spot. Like in this QQ vs KK situation. But when you encounter this situation often enough (will be hard to get there if you don't play online), you will start to see that on average you earn chips (+cEV) when you get in your QQ vs the aggro button player as he will fold pretty often against your shove and sometimes flip over TT, JJ, maybe AJs, AQ. Of course sometimes he has AK, KK and AA and some of these times and you still win.

So what I am saying is, don't try to think too much of what happened in this particular situation, but try to think what happens on average in a spot like this.

With this strong shove-call-range of villain (AJs+, AQo+, TT+) you win 56% of the time (which is clearly +EV) BUT you win even (much) more, as he often folds and you then win all of the chips allredy in the pot.

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