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May 26, 2016
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I was sitting on BB with 9To.
It was folded to V(SB) and V shoves with 9BB.
V is pretty tight with VPIP 19 / FR 18.
My table image was exactly the same VPIP 19 / FR 18.
Say I have enough sample size, how do I assume what range V would’ve been shoving?
Is there a simple round up like +10% on FR range or +15% or VPIP or something?
June 2, 2013
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For MTTs I assume this will be more difficult to do, you can get somewhere near of what you do, but most people will have different ranges, depending on phase of the tournament, stack sizes, your image also, if you fold your BB often or not.
HM2 have a feature that you can use by stacks when V open shove, but I don´t think that will be good enough to check everytime someone shoves on you, needs a very high number of hands to be close of what you want.
Use some equity calculator to play with ranges, ranges of shove and calling, and you will be better on this matter. Sit and go are a very nice way to improve this
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December 6, 2012
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You may not be able to. Poker is a game about uncertainty, and although you definitely want to make the most of any opportunities you have to predict how your opponent will play, you also need to learn how to handle the unknown. In this case, your objective is to develop a big blind calling range that neither results in you folding away too much equity, should your opponent be employing an overly aggressive shoving strategy, nor putting in too much money when your equity is not good, should your opponent be employing an overly narrow shoving strategy.
Once you have an idea of the baseline, then you can think about whether or how to adapt it based on predictions about a specific opponent.
April 14, 2016
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Hi, Is there anywhere on the forum that shove and call ranges have been discussed and how to adjust from Nash.
For example as a general rule of thumb at micros can you shove 1 or 2 hands lighter than nash unless the opponent seems like a reg and will be calling nash, in which case you use nash and if the opponents behind are particularly loose or have shown they are calling light that you tighten up by a hand or two. (After thought this is stack dependent as if you have them covered you would want to shove looser on someone calling wider and vise versa if they have you covered?)
Also I assume it is correct to take into account if it means your tournament life. i.e. if you are shoved on by a 10bb stack with 40bb you might call nash, but if you have 10bb and they have 40bb you might call slightly tighter than nash. Especially at micros where you might have an edge later.
In reverse as well you might shove lighter than nash on a 10bb stack if you have 40bb and a little tighter with 10bb against a 40bb stack.
Although saying that with the latter I am never shoving tighter than nash at the micros with a 10-15bb stack always shoving nash or lighter depending on the stack sizes and stats behind me. This may be a leak of mine.
Would be nice for any comments on my thinking, and I am sure this has been discussed many times so if anyone can point me to where that would be great.
In the example Ladpark has posted I think a nash call is T8o+ and with the stats alone you can assume he must at least know something about shoving ranges with 19/18. If he was say 40/5 or 5/5, maybe we can tighten are calling range. However in the example of 19/18 can and we have 15bb or more can we just call happily. If however we only have 9bb ourself maybe we tighten to JT+ and wait for a better spot.
May 26, 2016
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Thank you for kind words.
Basically these are not the answers I was looking for but it is because there might night be one.
I am new to this concept, but I think I am getting the idea.
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August 25, 2012
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I find myself saying this a lot, but getting hold of a copy of HoldemResources Calculator and running a few scenarios will really open your eyes on this front. If you can learn about Nash ranges and figure out how much of a margin for error you need to leave yourself in the event that the reads you do have are wrong, you’ll be taking the first step towards being very comfortable in these spots where your read on your opponent is limited or nonexistent.
May 26, 2016
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theginger45 said
I find myself saying this a lot, but getting hold of a copy of HoldemResources Calculator and running a few scenarios will really open your eyes on this front. If you can learn about Nash ranges and figure out how much of a margin for error you need to leave yourself in the event that the reads you do have are wrong, you’ll be taking the first step towards being very comfortable in these spots where your read on your opponent is limited or nonexistent.
Thank you, I downloaded HoldemResources Calculator and ICMizer on my other computer, because pokerstars banned those two programs while their clients are running. I already got the warning e-mail because I downloaded pokerstove. Now I am scared just installing those programs on my main computer. however I tag my hand with “review” signs and check if my shove was right at the end of the day on my other computer. I think this will help me a lot. Thanks again
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