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How often should an average player expect to cash in an MTT?

JoStylin

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March 17, 2015 - 11:37 am

Hi all, thank you for a great site which is helping me a lot. Apologies if this question is asked often but I mainly play MTT and lose the vast majority. I make the money roughly 20% of the time but this is over a small sample size. Also, when I do make the money it is usually short stacked and I just scrape in.

What is a good yardstick to measure my progress in terms of percentage of cashes?

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March 17, 2015 - 4:10 pm

It depends on the structure of the tournament, how many places are paid. In a typical PokerStars tournament paying 15% of the field, then the average player will cash 15% of the time. No matter how good you are, you will lose more often than not. That's just the nature of tournament poker.

Of course it also matters – arguably matters more – how deep you run once you cash. It's certainly possible (though not common) to be a winning player who cashes less often than the average player.

The bottom line is that it's really, really, really hard to evaluate your play based on results in any form of poker, but especially in tournament poker, because the variance is through the roof. You really need to focus on your decision-making in individual hands, which these forums can be helpful for.

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March 18, 2015 - 5:32 pm

Foucault said:

It depends on the structure of the tournament, how many places are paid. In a typical PokerStars tournament paying 15% of the field, then the average player will cash 15% of the time. No matter how good you are, you will lose more often than not. That's just the nature of tournament poker.

Of course it also matters – arguably matters more – how deep you run once you cash. It's certainly possible (though not common) to be a winning player who cashes less often than the average player.

The bottom line is that it's really, really, really hard to evaluate your play based on results in any form of poker, but especially in tournament poker, because the variance is through the roof. You really need to focus on your decision-making in individual hands, which these forums can be helpful for.

Andrew, do you find this to be higher or lower in LIVE MTTs? The ones I typically play are about 10-12% payouts and fields of between 100-500 on average.

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March 18, 2015 - 5:59 pm

I don't know if there's a trend one way or the other, I don't play that many liveaments. The WSOP Main Event is going to pay ~15% this year, but that's a change from 10% in the past.

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