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October 21, 2012
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Let's say it is pre ante. A unknown guy opens in MP. You 3bet from the BB and he shoves. You put him on TT-QQ, AK. How many bbs are you willing to call off with…
1. AKs in a tough field
2. AKs in a weak field
3. AKo in a tough field
4. AKo in a weak field
5. Do you think it makes a difference that you are calling off instead of shoving yourself? Considering the tightness of his range, would you expect to have much FE if he had just 4bet and you shoved?
6. Would your decision change if you had him covered by 20-30bb vs if he had you covered?
I feel like I may be getting it in too early in spots like this.
1. I called off my 125bb stack with AKs vs a guy that raise/shoved 85bb over my 3bet with TT. There was 3.5bb in dead money from the SB and a button flat/fold.
2. Later in the same game, I busted with 40bb and AKs after opening/4betting/calling vs an 85bb stacks 3bet/5bet shove with TT.
November 30, 2012
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I think you are looking at this the wrong way. The number of bb is more a cashgame thing than a tournament thing, as the average chipstack fluctuate and the value of a bigblind change throughout the levels.
I shove AI with AK for sure vs a hypothetical 100% known range of AK QQ-TT as I will usually have some FE vs that range and it can't crush me, but this hypothetical 100% certain range RARELY happens, and never in the AK QQ-TT catogary in tourneys. But lets move on to calling:
Let's say, as you outline, we for some reason, with 100% certainty, know that his range is an evenely adjusted AK, QQ-TT. First off, if we give him doing that with this range, we have 45% equity, and should be a fold from a cEV point if we don't have the potodds (we almost always do, unless some sickening stack early on). Now, the more important thing is how my stack is accourding to average and what I evaluate my tEV to be, if this is the finaltable bubble of the sunday million and me and villian has 100bb stack and the rest have 30bb stacks then it's a no-brainer fold. If this is the first hand of superturbo and we're sitting with 150bb then i get it in all day every day while dancing naked on my table.
Now everything between is an adjustment. As a rule of thumb AK is a strong hand because it has FE vs a large range and is only crushed vs a small range.
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October 21, 2012
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Let's say the first hand of tourney that starts with 150bb and 10 minute levels, so 150bb is the average chipstack. A guy you never seen before opens in MP, you 3bet with AKo and he shoves. You can assume he is not good, but you have to assign some range to him as best you can in order to make a decision like I would guess he is not doing this with 72o and possibly not with AA. Seems like a fold, but I guess the answer depends on the amount of dead money in the pot and how good you feel about the field.
I will have to go back and look at the two hands I played to check this. I am pretty sure I had odds to call off with 45% in the second hand though. Not sure about the first one.
I need to watch some of the related theory vids again. None seem to specifically focus on AK, but maybe I can extrapolate. I used to belong to a site that did an AK vid years ago, but it was sng focused. I will suggest this in the designated forum.
October 6, 2010
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One thing you also have to consider as we’ll as pot odds is risk of busto
As the tournament goes on, you accept a higher risk of busto. Early on you wouldn’t accept the risk of a flip.
So lets make up a scenario – first hand of wsop main, dude rolls his cards over, and shows ak then shoves. You are last to act with qq. 57% favourite right? Snap call? I actually think this is a pretty clear fold just because our risk of busto is so high.
Structure does have something to do with it, but I think it’s more to do with the stage of the tournament rather than the structure per se. You are prepared to accept much more risk late in a tournament than early
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