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Hot 1.10 $ JJ ITM EP MW second pair OTF
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April 7, 2018 - 7:54 am
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Here otf I am not sure what is best.

cbetting vs so many opps seems bad I don’t think I get called by much worst maybe some straight draws from the bb or weaker pairs. But against those I might as well check/call. When the Hijack bets I don’t like my call because I don’t see worst hands betting 88-TT I think with those he is jamming pre given eff stack sizes. However he seems kind nitty so prob 88 is in his range or maybe some 55-66? Anyway he bets kinda smallish so I pilled once. 

 

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UTG (Hero): 36,354 (18 bb)
UTG+1: 29,490 (15 bb)
MP: 35,277 (18 bb)
MP+1: 38,462 (19 bb)
LP: 63,008 (32 bb) 11/7/44 hands
CO: 21,244 (11 bb)
BU: 22,955 (11 bb)
SB: 30,010 (15 bb)
BB: 14,903 (7 bb)

Pre-Flop: (5,250) Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to 4,400, 3 players fold, LP calls 4,400, 2 players fold, SB calls 3,400, BB calls 2,400

Flop: (19,850) 4 Q 7 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, LP bets 7,146, 2 players fold, Hero calls 7,146

Turn: (34,142) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, LP bets 12,291, UTG (Hero) folds

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I like how you played it, I can’t see strong arguments for an alternative line. Preflop with 18bb, JJ is a hand I much prefer raise/calling than shoving. I agree with not betting here multi-way. Villain has absolute position on this flop and may stab at a dry board with a lot of hands after 3 checks. You’re getting a good price and closing the action. Villain has tight stats but that doesn’t mean they never attack pots (and its a small sample).

Facing a second bet I’m happy letting go of JJ. Being able to lose a pot with JJ and survive with two thirds of your 18bb is sort of a victory.

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I think your line is fine. However, these spots are the ones where I love limping preflop.

People will play really poorly vs limps at these stack sizes – they’ll make assumptions that you’re wildly unbalanced and go way too far in one direction or another. I think you’re likely to induce a lot of light shoves from villains around the table, while the one stack that has the chips to apply some pressure to you is probably too tight to really do it often enough.

I think you can most likely get away with limping 15-18% of hands here. As long as you know roughly what your plan is when you get shoved on or raised (hint: in this spot, you’re not folding), limping is a good option compared to raising. Playing HU vs a weak BB range is a good spot to pick up chips if it does fold around, and you don’t really have any difficult decisions if it doesn’t.

When you raise, getting flatted just results in playing a low SPR spot OOP vs a narrower range, or getting 3-bet all-in by a stronger range than the range that would have shoved over a limp. I encourage people to experiment with limping at these stacks.

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