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hit set vs 2 players - betsize?
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May 27, 2011 - 8:22 am
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no reads on my opponents only played a few hands with em, just saltalablanca seemed to be an active player. with my small cbet i wanted to induce a 3b (especially a shove from dammax – 13bb) – didnt work.:(  whats now your betsize on the turn?

 

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t3000/t6000 Blinds + t600 – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

saltalabanca (BTN): BB = 32.2, t192959
Sarkozy75 (SB): BB = 31.4, t188282
daMMax 82 (BB): BB = 15.6, t93400
BCEXn0PBy (UTG): BB = 5.5, t33162
prahlerxxxb (UTG+1): BB = 20.1, t120885
Hero (MP1): BB = 29.3, t175788
cambo245 (MP2): BB = 16.3, t98034
Yur77 (CO): BB = 39.9, t239445

Pre Flop: (t13800) Hero is MP1 with 7 of clubs 7 of spades
2 folds, Hero raises to t13283, 2 folds, saltalabanca calls t13283, 1 fold, daMMax 82 calls t7283

Flop: (t47649) 2 of hearts J of clubs 7 of hearts (3 players)
daMMax 82 checks, Hero bets t14579, saltalabanca calls t14579, daMMax 82 folds

Turn: (t76807) T of diamonds (2 players)
Hero bets ???

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May 27, 2011 - 9:03 am
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if my quick maths is correct, you have around 147, and the pot is 77k. so if you bet 46k then you will have 101 left and the pot will be 169 so i think thats a pretty good amount to shove

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May 27, 2011 - 9:06 am
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a rule i like to use is, as long as its not an overbet, bet around 1/3 your remaining stack on the turn that should be right for a river shove.

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May 27, 2011 - 9:13 am
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firstly, i'd def bet more on the flop with 3 way action – when it gets back to dammax he's getting pretty good odds to call with his draws so we want them both to pay more by increasing our flop bet size if not HU

 

as played

i'd bet anywhere between 50-75% pot pricing out flush draws and also getting value from any other made hand, personally i'd bet closer to 75%

 

if we think ahead to the river this is kind of what stacks look like;

 

(betting 1/2 pot on turn)

pot 152807

us 109kish or roughly 3/4 pot

 

(betting around 3/4 pot or 55k on turn)

pot 186807

us 92kish or roughly 1/2 pot

 

so you see if we think he can call the turn with a J or any other made hand, then we should increase our bet size so that on the river he has more favourable odds to call with his made hands when we put the rest of our stack in

he's obv not calling the river with a busted flush draw, so the idea of this is getting the max value we can while making him pay as much as possible for his draws before he misses

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agree that your flop bet 3way is much to low with a fd out there, would like to see a 25-30k bet there.

as played you're left w a 2x potbet, so I wouldnt mind a tank shove after the “'feelerbet'” on the flop making it look you put villain on a draw and trying to push him off a J. He might “herocall” you.

you mentioned he was an active player. was he a good aggressive player or a loose player wwho liked to see a lot of flops and turns/rivers? you're only 29bb deep at the start of the hand and if you were to bet between 40-55k you'll have around 100k behind, roughly 15bb. if any scarecard shows up on the river it would be annoying to c/f the river (like a heart, 9/A if he had an oesd or other combodraws which still have a lot of outs to outdraw you).

If you're going to bet the turn committing half your stack w the possibility of c/f the river i think i'd prefer a shove, def if you had bet bigger on the flop.

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