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Help w range for loose/fishy player: $15 buy in

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November 3, 2013 - 5:00 pm

As this happens I am table chip 2nd and about 20 of 110 in tournament. Guy to my left has been quite active but not shown down anything spectacular or bad before.

My thoughts were: pre, use my stack and cbet on flop should fold any low suited stuff unless they're hearts. On turn I bet to get some chips in the pot if my flush drops. River I intend to check call just because of odds…

GTECH G2 (Boss) - kr200/kr400 NL - Holdem - 10 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 2,324 (VPIP: 22.45, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
SB: 8,284 (VPIP: 15.04, PFR: 7.19, 3Bet Preflop: 5.12, Hands: 628)
BB: 7,515 (VPIP: 7.55, PFR: 5.66, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 163)
UTG: 13,420 (VPIP: 24.07, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 55)
UTG+1: 4,411 (VPIP: 18.11, PFR: 4.28, 3Bet Preflop: 1.92, Hands: 359)
UTG+2: 18,071 (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP: 18,926 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 12.90, Hands: 66)
MP+1: 8,560 (VPIP: 13.50, PFR: 8.05, 3Bet Preflop: 4.64, Hands: 516)
Hero (MP+2): 33,181

CO: 31,462 (VPIP: 42.31, PFR: 26.92, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 26)

10 players post ante of 25, SB posts SB 200, BB posts BB 400

Pre Flop: (pot: 850) Hero has  8 K 

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 800, CO calls 800, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (2,450, 2 players)  J A 2 
Hero bets 809, CO calls 809

Turn: (4,068, 2 players)  9 
Hero bets 1,577, CO calls 1,577

River: (7,222, 2 players)  A 
Hero checks, CO checks

Hero shows  8 K  (One Pair, Aces)
Hero wins 7,222

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November 3, 2013 - 5:10 pm

Oh, and pls, pls, pls fix a hand converter that works with PT4 forum output… 🙂

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November 4, 2013 - 5:36 am

Looks like you played it fine postflop but preflop raise is a bit loose when you have someone behind you that calls and 3bets a lot plus you have two stacks that can easily shove on you light (18-20bbs range).

Cbet is good, sizing is fine at 1/3 pot and I like the turn bet when you pick up more equity. However, if you ck and he bets the river I think you have to fold as the opponent will have you beaten too often. To call, you are hoping he bluffs with something like QT or KQ and personally, I feel it is more likely he is calling down with a weak ace, J, possible flush draw etc and all of those beat you.

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November 4, 2013 - 9:39 am

I like the play, post flop is fine and yes if the opponent bets the river its an easy fold, also I don't think that you should be aware of those reshoving stacks, if you have good/solid image you can take these spots, having this huge stack allows you to raise/fold without any serious damages to yourself.

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November 4, 2013 - 1:07 pm

Merfinis, out of interest, are you opening the K8s there 100% of the time?

I'm not so sure that it is a profitable open with those stacks behind and being the big stack does not necessarily stop opponents from jamming on you pretty light as they will know you could be opening a wide range. I'm not sure I buy into the idea of opening just because I have a big stack if that is your reasoning.

Any additional thoughts on this one?

Thanks.

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November 4, 2013 - 1:14 pm

No, definitely not 100% it depends from table flow (If the players behind us were active, has high 3bet frequencies) and our table image.

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November 5, 2013 - 9:57 am

So, as for the vilains range: If I enter 42% – 12% into Slice for preflop, I get:

66-44,A8s-A2s,K9s-K2s,Q9s-Q4s,J9s-J6s,T7s+,97s+,87s,A9o-A3o,KTo-K6o,Q8o+,J8o+,T8o+

After flop I'd remove all Aces, since i think my bet would generally get raised by this player type. No?

So then on turn, when he only calls I definitely remove any monsters/monster draws as I think he'd raise them as well. I am pretty much left with low to middle pairs and K and Q highs and some random J & Ts?

On River my plan was to check/call up to about 4k as I figured I was getting about the right odds for it?

Since the network is not displaying mucked hands I don´t know what villain had. What seems most likely to me is QTo or a worse King than mine.

Aside: next orbit he jams 80BB over my call to HiJack open (had KK). He had 99 then, BB called for 30BB & I call obv. and get Greensteined by BB but scoop the side pot. GG villain.

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