April 2, 2018
Morning all,
Whilst reviewing a tourney i played last night the following hand came up. I’d really like your views/opinions on a couple of things to A – Figure out if I made the ‘right’ moves and B – See if you are thinking about the same things as me when reviewing hands.
No-Limit Hold’em Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (8 handed) – Converted at …..erter.com/
SB (t1,862)
BB (t4,852)
UTG (t4,984)
UTG+1 (t10,851)
MP1 (t14,790)
MP2 (t4,754)
MP3 (t4,996)
Hero’s BB: 119
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q
1 fold, UTG+1 raises t80, MP1 calls t80, 2 folds
Total pot: t220
Question 1 – I’m 3 betting here. What size would you use and why?
Hero raises t333, Button calls t333, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls t253, 1 fold
2 callers. Both have high VPIPs (Button is 64/19 and UTG+1 is 45/21) although i only have an 18 hand sample size at this point.
Question 2 – What ranges are you putting villains on?
Flop: (t1,139) 10, 2, 9 (3 players)
UTG+1 bets t1,175
The dreaded lead bet (note: no longer calling it a donk bet!). I have no idea what to put UTG+1 on?
Question 3 – With the button still to act behind, what would you do and why?
This is pretty much how i go about analysing hands when i’m reviewing. I know i can go in to much more depth, but i’m trying to keep things simple(ish).
Question 4 – Is there anything else i should be asking myself when reviewing specific hands?
TPE Pro
August 25, 2012
Q1: Something like ~450ish. Your range is very polarized when you 3-bet here, and your sizing should be larger to reflect that. It also helps you get max value from what seems to be two weak players.
Q2: Pretty much all pairs 22-JJ, most broadways, suited Ax, suited connectors, maybe some offsuit Ax. People with high VPIPs will continue with anything that looks pretty in these spots.
Side note: I like that you stopped using “donk bet”! Good stuff.
Q3: Jam all-in, all day every day. Both players have ranges that are simply too wide for you to assume you’re behind with a high frequency here, and the flop is too dynamic for you to call and see a turn card. Getting it in allows you to maximize value against worse hands, while denying the free card to draws and simplifying your decisions massively. Your opponent has leveraged your entire stack with this bet, so you should be playing all-in or fold poker once that bet size goes out there.
Q4: There are a lot of things you could ask yourself, but the most important thing is that reviewing hands needs to be a dialogue – if it’s just you looking at a hand and thinking about it, nothing is really happening. It needs to be either a dialogue between yourself and another player, or between yourself and a piece of software that can give you some feedback on the mathematical nature of the situation. Otherwise you risk getting stuck in an echo chamber of your own existing knowledge, which is what happens to most players.
Essentially, if you’re asking yourself questions that you can easily answer, all you’re doing is reinforcing what’s already there. That’s useful at times, but in order to push your game forward, you need to go looking for answers you don’t already have. If your process for thinking through a hand becomes a question-and-answer game in real-time, eventually something will trip you up by breaking the chain and leaving you without an answer, so rather than asking “what should I ask myself?”, think about what you currently would normally ask yourself and consider whether you’re fully confident in your ability to answer those questions. If not, adding more questions is only going to make life harder.
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