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hello,i am a new member,i used to be a hu sit and go regural at small-medium stakes but i decided to stop playing these games and start playing mtt.i need to improve my game and i am willing to make some good efforts to learn this type of game.my first question is how important are some programmes like hem?i play 2-3 tables and i think i can have a good opinion for my opponents images.i will post my first hand at this site.some information about the hand:my opponent usually opens from late positions and cbets the flop always.we are the 2 big stacks so i decide to mini 3bet him.i want to represent big pair and my general plan is to play a tricky game thats why i check-raise the flop.i strongly believe that his pot bet doesnt means something stong,i dont believe he would play that way any Q.so his range has flush draws,small-middle pairs and air.so i believe that my shove isnt so bad here.my only doubt is that i have a good stack,we are close to the payments and there is no reason to put all my stack in a very marginal situation.
i want to make your guess about the hand he finally called me.with what hands he should call at this situation??
sorry for my bad english,i hope you understood completely my words.
Full Tilt Poker $7,500 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 8 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge
URL: …..andNo=2678
euraba (SB): t3580 17.90 BBs
frank dsp force (BB): t7300 36.50 BBs
whosgatdherb (UTG): t1580 7.90 BBs
The_Hippo4 (UTG+1): t2330 11.65 BBs
CHASE52OUTS (MP1): t10650 53.25 BBs
MuDDYBuTT1 (MP2): t1600 8 BBs
I Understand U (CO): t5000 25 BBs
arvan1985 (BTN): t10863 54.31 BBs
Pre Flop: (t300) arvan1985 is BTN with 8
7
4 folds, CHASE52OUTS raises to t600, 2 folds, arvan1985 raises to t1466, CHASE52OUTS calls t866
Flop: (t3032) Q
5
7 (2 players)
arvan1985 checks, CHASE52OUTS bets t3032, arvan1985 requests TIME, arvan1985 raises to t9397 all in, CHASE52OUTS calls t6152 all in
Turn: (t21400) K
(2 players – 2 are all in)
River: (t21400) Q (2 players – 2 are all in)
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March 17, 2010
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I think I would take a flop in position here with cards that flop very well. You could raise his c-bet if you think he c-bets light and it's a much smaller bet to do it when you don't 3 bet pre.
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June 22, 2010
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I am not sure I would shove after his pot sized bet. He could be sitting on air or he is protecting his queen. I think I would have just called his bet and fold to additional bets. You only flopped middle pair, missed the flush and straight draw. I would preceed cautiously. IMO
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praetor said:
I am not sure I would shove after his pot sized bet. He could be sitting on air or he is protecting his queen. I think I would have just called his bet and fold to additional bets. You only flopped middle pair, missed the flush and straight draw. I would preceed cautiously. IMO
+1
I dont hate your line until you call his shove.
July 3, 2010
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Your english is good 🙂
Welcome.
I do not think he would bet pot with small pairs. Most donk leads are small in nature.
I agree that Qx does not make too much sense here because why would he want you to fold? But when we shove we do not have much fold equity and our hand will not play well against the hands which call us – Qx, flush draws, maybe slightly better pocket pairs?
I'm not sure. I also flat call my button here.
first thought was to flat bttn with this type hand in pos as others have posted. second thought was the 3bet sizing. giving him easy odds to make the call. i think we can raise to 1655 – 1795. flop play: after flopping middle pr and he pots it we can give it up, as mentioned we have no FE and no other drws.
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ok,he called my shove with 88.is his call right?if i make a lead bet at the flop is more posiible to win the pot?
Any1 see something funny about this posted hand?
Arvan 3bet from the button and called by MP1. Yet he is the first to act on the flop???????????????????????????????????????
i havent seen this.i clearly remember that iwas first to act.is something wrong with hand converter?
JDOG1645 said:
praetor said:
I am not sure I would shove after his pot sized bet. He could be sitting on air or he is protecting his queen. I think I would have just called his bet and fold to additional bets. You only flopped middle pair, missed the flush and straight draw. I would preceed cautiously. IMO
+1
I dont hate your line until you call his shove.
i shoved and i thought that he had a big % of air,fd or something weak.he finally had 88 and imo he could fold this.
July 3, 2010
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arvan1985 said:
JDOG1645 said:
praetor said:
I am not sure I would shove after his pot sized bet. He could be sitting on air or he is protecting his queen. I think I would have just called his bet and fold to additional bets. You only flopped middle pair, missed the flush and straight draw. I would preceed cautiously. IMO
+1
I dont hate your line until you call his shove.
i shoved and i thought that he had a big % of air,fd or something weak.he finally had 88 and imo he could fold this.
Agree. He should feel he is beat but he has invested almost half his stack after his pot bet.
That is why I did not like the shove. Almost no one folds after committing 50% of their chips.
Ya like FkCoolers said typically players aren't ever going to fold after putting in 25% of their stack. They have to be right such a small percentage of the time that they almost always call off the rest. Just try and be aware of if your opponents are capable of making folds after putting in large % of their stacks cause the majority of the time they arent. I think he should be folding 88 here but ya never know maybe he was tired of playing…..I like your thought process just have to be more aware of opponents stack size in this situation.
Cougars4444 said:
Ya like FkCoolers said typically players aren't ever going to fold after putting in 25% of their stack. They have to be right such a small percentage of the time that they almost always call off the rest. Just try and be aware of if your opponents are capable of making folds after putting in large % of their stacks cause the majority of the time they arent. I think he should be folding 88 here but ya never know maybe he was tired of playing…..I like your thought process just have to be more aware of opponents stack size in this situation.
I completely agree 100%
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