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Hand Review KJs OOP
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August 10, 2015 - 3:48 pm
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Live tournament $200 buy in. Fairly small field of about 70 entrantes. We recently combined 3 tables to 2 and villain a guy in his mid-30s that I don't recognize is a new addition. I saw him play one significant hand where I folded button. SB limped. Villain raised. SB 3-bet Villain jammed and SB called. Villain had A6o and lost to AA in SB.  He also saw me open cutoff and fold to button 3-bet last orbit.

Blinds (800/1600/200) 8 handed. Villain has about 30K. I have 55K. I open hijack to 3500 with KheartJheart. Villain 3-bets to 8500 on button. Blinds fold. I call.

Flop (20K) Aheart8heart6spade. I shove.

Q1 – Pre-flop decision seemed tough. My first instinct was to fold. I did not have much history with him except the BVB blow up, so I can't be confident he's 3-betting light. KJs is dominated by all of the hands he will 3-bet for value. If I call the pot will be 20 and he will have 22 behind so there's not really any room to maneuver. 

I considered 4-bet shoving. I have some blockers to his value range, but I don't think there's a high probabiltiy it will succeed and I'm dominated by most of his calling range.

The main argments for a call is pot odds and our limited history. He saw me raise / fold recently from late position so he could be assuming I'm only continuing with top 5% hands.I have to call 5K to get 16K. At that price I feel like I shouldn't be folding much, even if I give up on 75% of flops. At this stack depth I am feeling very clueless about how to respond to 3 bets in general when this shallow. Help!

On the flop: Now that I have the NFD I have too much equity to fold if he jams.

While there's a lot of aces in his 3-betting range, there are also a good number of combimations of pocket pairs that don't want to see an ace.

It seems like I have two options here.

Option 1 – Shove and hope to fold out some of his pairs

Option 2 – Check and 

2a Call if he jams

2b Shove if he bets less than all in

I don't think he bet / folds often and it seemed my fold equity would be highest If I shove first. Thoughts?

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More than likely I would fold preflop. KJs vs his sizing and stack size is going to do very well long term and going to get you in a lot of trouble. If he had 40 bbs+ to start the hand sure I would call. So shove or fold preflop to start. As played I like the shove as you may eliminate some pairs in his preflop 3bet range that have you beat. Obviously you can't fold nut flush draw with given stacks and the pot.

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yeah i was thinking fold to the 3-bet given the effective stacks.

as for pots odds well there’s 16k total pot you have to call 5k to win 21k , you’re getting 3.2 to 1 , so you need 23.8 equity. not sure if i’ve got that right?

as for post flop , i’d shove.

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Agree with the other comments.

 

One of the differences between KJ suited and Ax suited (never mind the ace on the board here) is on 2-suited flop that gives you a flush draw you may also get the best hand if an ace hits. You have fewer outs (and fewer blockers to top pair) if you have a non-ace suited broadway.

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August 13, 2015 - 5:09 am
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i fold pre as said fold pre.

 

i dont shove flop as we are only getting it in against Ax and vs that we are not in that good of a shape.

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