RonFezBuddy said:

YOu should raise to 120 PF….the standard is 3x + 1 for every limper when someone has limped.  You are giving too good odds to call for his entire limp range with no way to narrow his range down.

I like the idea of raising the flop.  Big dog always preaches that these donk leads are usually nothing and you can probably take it down right here with a Cbet.  But you need to raise more I think given there are 2 people in the hand.  I'd go like 200.

Once he calls flop I'd shut down.  He has some sort of showdown value and it's going to be hard to get him off of it.

I know Bigdog makes a big point of this in a lot of his videos, one thing to be aware/cautious of is at the micro level this happens a lot when you get someone who connects with the flop, but doesn't really understand betting strategy or has had a lot of success getting a player to spaz on them with the line so they use it over and over. I might as well weight in on the rest of the hand while I'm here thought 🙂

RFB has it right, you need to goose it a little to get the limper to pay attention, as raised no one is going anywhere. Only other advice I would have is if I was later in the line to act behind a couple of limpers, I would limp along to disguise my hand, but be careful post flop with that move, because as RFB mentions you have no way to really range anyone so it is hard to interpret what the action means. I don't mind the re-raise on the flop (actually I think it is a really good move), but make it big, let him know that you mean business here. Once he calls that, I am playing pot control for the rest of the hand and am content to call it down if I think my A high is good here as all you are going to do is bloat the pot with no real clear indication as to where you are in reality. 

Biggest thing this hand tells me is look into bet sizing a bit when it comes to re-raising limped/donk led pots to make sure the effective message is being issued and that you are giving people the wrong odds to stick around.

Twanobi said:

Thanks for the feedback guys. RFB thanks for bringing the PF action to my attention. It just shows that I didnt have a plan before I saw the flop which could have been exploited. I also think the raise on the flop should have been bigger like you guys said. I really feel like I am completely flop dependent when I play, and I am trying to get away from that when the right oppurtunities present themselves. This might seem elementary to most people but its something I have a hard time with that when I play. I really dont feel comfortable trying to make a move like this later in a tournament when I havent tried it before. How do you “practice” plays like this? (excuse the phrasing) do you just pick your spot after hours of hard work in a tourney or in cash games?  thanx again for your feedback

With respect to your last question for push/fold play I developed my ability to learn that action and pick spots over thousands of single table Turbo SnGs. They are a very good forum for learning push/fold play and learning to adjust and manage final table play as you are always going to be short and dealing with blind pressure and the number of people at the table constantly getting smaller. The rest of the late stage skills I have, have been developed at the hands of many a frustrating failed runs and coaching that I have pursued. The last point is something that I don't think I can stress enough, if you have the BR and can swing the expense, invest in yourself and get coaching, it will make a huge difference in your game.

As far as your question of being “flop dependant”, to some degree or another in micro/low stakes stuff you are going to be flop dependant to some degree or another. What I mean by this is that you aren't really going to be able to craft and run big bluffs all that effectively in these stakes, you are generally bound by ABC poker so the tools you have at your disposal are much more Pre-Flop, than they are post flop (where most of your work is either going to be a decision on whether you are going to be getting value from worse or getting away from a situation where you are beat). Look into some of the work in the vids on 3betting (4betting at the micro stakes is hard to do lite and in general is usually reserved to big hands) as this is by far your best tool for chip accumulation late. The 3bet in the micro stakes is generally respected as a big hand so you can combine that with people over-tightening late in a tourney in an effort to increase their money won and chip up a bit. Biggest piece of advice i can offer is to be careful if you start to 3bet a lot as it is going to change the dynamics of you table and you will need to react to it (a really good example of the effect and management of a signicant 3bettor is the Wednesday Live Sweat from HTP (part 1 and 2 with the FT) and how he deals with Ryanbluf who is a notorious big time 3bettor).