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Going deep in a tournament by not playing any big pots.
Flicka12Bet
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March 8, 2014 - 4:07 pm
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Hi,

 

I just started to go trough my first big win hand history.

it was the 16.5$ with 4658 players and I got to the FT and and ended up 5th and cashed almost 3k.

 

The first thing I noticed in the HH was that I had only lost 5 pots with more than 5bb and and 4 pots with 3-7bb pots.

Everything else that I lost was under 3BB.

 

Was I just running really good or is this normal in a tournament you go deeb? does anyone have more data on their HH. Just interested.

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March 8, 2014 - 10:53 pm
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I would say you were running pretty damn well, but I would'nt spend too much time investigating this much further, you're time is better well spent looking for spots to improve. Also, congrats on the score!

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Well, imo you have to run good in order to win big tournaments, even if you play perfect. I guess losing very few chips is one way to run well.

I had some final tables where I was down to one or two BBs during early or midstage of the tournament. Also I experience a lot of chip-stack rollercoaster, mainly because of some very aggro moves I tend to do. So I guess it depends a bit on the style you play.

To answer your question: I don't think there is a 'normal' progression of your chipstack in a tournament you go deep. It depends a bit on the structure, though. In a deepstack your chip-up-and-downs might be (on average) a little less drastic than in a turbo tourney. GL and congrats on the very nice run.

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March 11, 2014 - 1:27 pm
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Thread title is misleading. It says “not playing any big pots”, whereas in fact it should be “not losing any big pots”, if that's what you searched for. In which case, it just means you ran really good in big spots, which is exactly what's necessary in tournaments. So, no, it's not uncommon, it's kind of necessary.

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March 12, 2014 - 11:38 pm
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Congrats on your 5/4658, that's quite an accomplishment!  Yeah, every mtt is going to be different and unique in it's own way.  Basically what this review tells you is that when you got your stack in the middle, every time, you won.  In order to get as deep as you did, you have to play good and run good.  And you did!  You played well and you ran well  laugh

 

Now you have a bit of a bankroll.  If I can offer you a little technique, something I wish I had when I was first playing … As a general rule:  Only play a tournament that is 1% of your bankroll.   So, if your bankroll (the $$$ in your poker account specifically desigated for poker that you don't touch for anything else) is $3000, then you only play $30 mtts and below.  This will adjust for variance.  You are going to have tournaments where you play AWESOME, and you still lose.  And you're going to have tournaments where you play horrible, and you win.  Variance can be your best friend or your worst enemy, but it will be there either way.  You're only defense against it is how much of your bankroll you risk at one time.

 

Now there are a lot of variables to this:  for example if you are playing a tournament that has 8000 players you might only want to risk 0.2% of your bankroll, because the swings are going to be higher.  If you are playing a 50 player mtt, you might be able to risk 3% of your bankroll.  The fewer the players, and the easier the competition, the more you can risk.  That's why I think it's ok to go out to the WSOP and risk 10-20% of your bankroll out there; the competition is so unbelievably soft, the risk is worth the reward.  If you lose 20% of your roll, then drop down a bit in mtts for a month or two and you're back in your normal games.  At the WSOP you can buy into a $300 – $1000 tournament and it's like playing a $20 mtt online.  Really it is.  I'm not kidding.

 

Anyways, I've rambled long enough.  Congrats on your win and your future success  smile

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March 13, 2014 - 2:29 am
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Thanks for your comments and especially the bankroll management. that is really something that I would need to start doing better… 🙂

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