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GII with AK 60bb effective?
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January 10, 2015 - 9:57 pm
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#Game No : 653699038
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 653699038 *****
$150/$300 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 
Tournament #65211961 $22.75 + $2.25 - Table #4 9 Max (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Slava4777 ( $3,894 )
Seat 2: SettyBoards ( $3,980 )
Seat 3: Kerrilie ( $12,269 )
Seat 4: IsaakidiAA ( $13,582 )
Seat 5: jasperman1 ( $6,666 )
Seat 6: london_ace ( $17,629 )
Seat 7: Yuokozuna ( $6,869 )
Seat 9: mvp2b ( $26,493 )
Seat 10: turtlek1 ( $3,690 )
mvp2b posts ante [$30]
Kerrilie posts ante [$30]
Yuokozuna posts ante [$30]
jasperman1 posts ante [$30]
IsaakidiAA posts ante [$30]
turtlek1 posts ante [$30]
Slava4777 posts ante [$30]
SettyBoards posts ante [$30]
london_ace posts ante [$30]
mvp2b posts small blind [$150]
turtlek1 posts big blind [$300]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to london_ace [ Kdiamond, Aclub ]
Slava4777 folds
SettyBoards folds
Kerrilie calls [$300]
IsaakidiAA calls [$300]
jasperman1 folds
london_ace raises [$1,500]
Yuokozuna folds
mvp2b raises [$6,250]
turtlek1 folds
Kerrilie folds
IsaakidiAA folds
london_ace raises [$16,099]
mvp2b calls [$11,199]
** Dealing flop ** [ 3heart, 9spade, Kspade ]
** Dealing turn ** [ Qheart ]
** Dealing river ** [ 2diamond ]
Hey
 Hero was new to the table so no reads.
I raised it up in the previous hand in LP , not sure if v is getting carried away here.
anyhow , there's like 27 players remaining outta 90 players , i must be ranked at like 5th at the moment. Top 12 get paid or something like that..
fold or shove?
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January 11, 2015 - 5:48 pm
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While I don’t like GII so deep pre with AK, I think this is a spot where I would flick it in.

My logic is that he could easily think that we are light iso’ing vs the limpers. His raise is so big, I dont ever put him on AA, or KK, so we can easily GII here smashing or racing.

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Yeah, I agree with StrugLife here, although I think his range is a little tighter than that. I think he can have KK+ here occasionally, and I think we’re rarely ‘smashing’ him at all. The problem, though, is that we have very limited information, there’s a ton of money in the pot, and he made it so big that we can’t just flat and take a flop. So we’re simply in a position of folding (neutral EV) or shoving, which I suspect is perhaps not massively +EV, but enough so to be preferable to folding.

I would recommend running this hand through the SliceEV fold equity calculator, so that you can calculate how wide the villain’s range needs to be in order for us to get it in profitably. I would think that as long as he has JJ, QQ and AK in his range here (which I think many villains probably do), we should be fine getting it in. But don’t take my word for it. The math is king. 🙂

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I think this is fine as some villains do have a 4bet bluff range in this spot. I prefer the 5bet shove because it hurts to fold a hand such as AK when we whiff the flop. If this villains range is only JJ+, AK we are slightly behind (60/40) however if his range would even include the occasional TT or AQ it becomes a much more profitable spot.

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Villain had QQ.

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