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Getting value on a freerolling turn
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May 26, 2015 - 12:41 pm
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Party, $1 Buy-in (60/120 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): 6,560 (54.7 bb)
BB: 6,236 (52 bb)
UTG+2: 6,427 (53.6 bb)
MP1: 13,842 (115.4 bb)
MP2: 12,882 (107.4 bb)
MP3: 5,760 (48 bb)
CO: 3,330 (27.8 bb)
BTN: 10,405 (86.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ad 4d
UTG+2 calls 120, 4 folds, BTN calls 120, Hero completes, BB checks

Flop: (480) Qd Ts Kd (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, BTN checks

Turn: (480) Jh (4 players)
Hero bets 360, BB calls 360, UTG+2 folds, BTN raises to 840, Hero calls 480, BB calls 480

River: (3,000) 9d (3 players)
Hero bets 5,600 and is all-in

 

Hey TPE. Thoughts on my line here. UTG is 20/9 with 0.7AF over 56 hands. Have seen him limp AJ before. Expecting pocket pairs, suited connectors, suited aces. The button is 62/15 and he limps behind. He could have pretty much anything apart from the absolute worst junk. With a suited ace in the small blind I complete. I’ve been playing 15/12. It’s a $1 on Party (yes, have been going back to basics and re-building my game from scratch!). The big blind checks.

 The flop is very wet. I have a gutshot and the nut flush draw but I assume this is a bad spot to lead out? We have 55bb so I guess building a pot might be good but chances are someone has something and I don’t want to get raised off my equity? It checks around.

The turn gives me the nut straight and I am freerolling the nut flush draw too. I lead out and am called by the big blind, and then the button raises. I think I made a mistake here: I think I should be shoving, but I just called in case someone was spazzing with a 9 or set. Presumably the button has an ace, and the big blind could well have too? Obviously any ace is calling a massive shove, and then the money is already in the middle in case the scary diamond comes off and they somehow find a fold?

When the river comes I guess I shouldn’t give them credit for being able to fold an ace so I shove. I am guessing most people don’t make it to the river here without the money already being in, but as played, a shove is good?

Thanks for your thoughts on my butchered hand!

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May 26, 2015 - 5:41 pm
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Well, preflop, flop and the leadout OTT are definitely ok. When you slowplay the turn I would probably slowplay the river too but it probably doesnt make too much difference. Someone could have flush here too, BB definitely or his line is terrible.

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A small point, but I'm not sure why you're worried about getting raised off your equity on the flop because you're not going to be folding.

 

As played, I would just raise the turn.  Any aces will probabably assist you in getting the money in anyway so you should be focussing on getting value from 2 pair, worse flush draws, maybe even some random 9x hands.  Shoving allows some of these to make a comfortable fold.  Yes, a non shove raise might be obviously strong to most of us, but a) not to everyone and b) people will chase 4 outer full house draws.

 

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You say we're not folding on the flop: do we really want to get in 52bb with a gutshot and a flush draw? If I was raised on the flop I would probably fold depending on what other action and sizing etc. 

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