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November 21, 2013 - 11:50 pm
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This was probably the hand that really set up the deep run. I start the hand about 8th in chips I think, with the villain having me covered. There was 27 left iirc, and we had just come back from a break.

 

Only have 31 hands with villain so not sure how relevant stats are. I was watching all the tables at this point, and he had been crushing his table before it broke and he joined mine.

 

Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50000/t100000 Blinds + t10000 – 8 players – View hand 2362288
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

bananeraise (CO): BB = 50.2, t5015006
PAULMARCKO (BTN): BB = 30.5, t3045532
LBBigSlickAK (SB): BB = 45.9, t4591255
R_Caiaffa (BB): BB = 22.0, t2195154
paaskebaesen (UTG): BB = 30.3, t3026519
Ysjah (UTG+1): BB = 21.2, t2118885
Unicum next (MP1): BB = 7.4, t739772
Hero (MP2): BB = 44.5, t4447016

Pre Flop: (t230000) Hero is MP2 with J of clubs J of diamonds
3 folds, Hero raises to t200000, bananeraise calls t200000, 2 folds, R_Caiaffa calls t100000

Flop: (t730000) J of hearts T of spades 2 of clubs (3 players)
R_Caiaffa checks, Hero bets t333333, bananeraise calls t333333, R_Caiaffa folds

Turn: (t1396666) 2 of spades (2 players)
Hero checks, bananeraise checks

River: (t1396666) T of hearts (2 players)
Hero bets t777777, bananeraise raises to t2000000, Hero raises to t3222223, bananeraise raises to t4444446, Hero calls t681460 all in

 

My thoughts through the hand are like this:

Preflop – Yup, I'm going to raise. I think I took advantage of the last table break to reduce my raising to a min raise. I had previously been going about 2.1-2.3x with the purpose of making interesting numbers. So normally I would have went 222222 here. I'm not unhappy with 2 callers, but I definitely want a low flop.

 

Flop – BINGO! I don't think I can ask for a better flop. I have been Cbetting pretty consistently, around 80% or so. I choose to bet here. I think that checking here looks really fishy, because I'm obviously going to take a strong line on Turn/River. I bet bigger than I would have liked I think. I'm not totally hating the bet at all, but I think it would eliminate a lot of potential floats. 

 

Turn – This is obviously an absolute gin card. No reason in the world to bet here. This gives me the advantage of making my hand look a lot weaker than it is. It also doesn't push him off any draws that are exactly 0% here. I'm not 100% sure how I would of played if he bet turn. I think i would have to call and then decide on river if I was check/raising or just leading. 

River – Another great card for the hand. We pretty much have the nuts here(I think we would of heard from TT or 22 on the flop). The question I was faced with was how much to bet, and what exactly can we get value from. Given how deep we were pre, I don't think he has slow played an overpair, but it's possible. That leaves us with AJ, KJ, AT, KT, and maybe 77-99. 

Once Villian raises, I literally spaz out and just insta click the raise button. I found out I have a bit of a tell here, which I caught myself on later. I have a bad habit of hovering over the “raise/Call All In” button when I think my opponent might shove and I'm not folding. I did that in this case, so when he raised, I just insta spaz raised it back. I've made note that this needs to be corrected haha. 

 

I'd like your thoughts on how the hands plays, and my thoughts through it. Do you play the same, or maybe do something different?

 

End Result

 

He ends up having QTcc. This hand somewhat plays itself out on the river, as he is likely thinking he just smashed the world vs me and never sees the JJ coming. I take a solid chip lead with 27 players left, and cripple the other big stack(who was on my right) in one fell swoop.

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November 22, 2013 - 1:09 pm
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OneTime1Time said:

This was probably the hand that really set up the deep run. I start the hand about 8th in chips I think, with the villain having me covered. There was 27 left iirc, and we had just come back from a break.

 

Only have 31 hands with villain so not sure how relevant stats are. I was watching all the tables at this point, and he had been crushing his table before it broke and he joined mine.

 

Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50000/t100000 Blinds + t10000 – 8 players – View hand 2362288
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

bananeraise (CO): BB = 50.2, t5015006
PAULMARCKO (BTN): BB = 30.5, t3045532
LBBigSlickAK (SB): BB = 45.9, t4591255
R_Caiaffa (BB): BB = 22.0, t2195154
paaskebaesen (UTG): BB = 30.3, t3026519
Ysjah (UTG+1): BB = 21.2, t2118885
Unicum next (MP1): BB = 7.4, t739772
Hero (MP2): BB = 44.5, t4447016

Pre Flop: (t230000) Hero is MP2 with J of clubs J of diamonds
3 folds, Hero raises to t200000, bananeraise calls t200000, 2 folds, R_Caiaffa calls t100000

Flop: (t730000) J of hearts T of spades 2 of clubs (3 players)
R_Caiaffa checks, Hero bets t333333, bananeraise calls t333333, R_Caiaffa folds

Turn: (t1396666) 2 of spades (2 players)
Hero checks, bananeraise checks

River: (t1396666) T of hearts (2 players)
Hero bets t777777, bananeraise raises to t2000000, Hero raises to t3222223, bananeraise raises to t4444446, Hero calls t681460 all in

 

My thoughts through the hand are like this:

Preflop – Yup, I'm going to raise. I think I took advantage of the last table break to reduce my raising to a min raise. I had previously been going about 2.1-2.3x with the purpose of making interesting numbers. So normally I would have went 222222 here. I'm not unhappy with 2 callers, but I definitely want a low flop.

(I usually min-raise here as well. Nothing wrong with that at all.)

 

Flop – BINGO! I don't think I can ask for a better flop. I have been Cbetting pretty consistently, around 80% or so. I choose to bet here. I think that checking here looks really fishy, because I'm obviously going to take a strong line on Turn/River. I bet bigger than I would have liked I think. I'm not totally hating the bet at all, but I think it would eliminate a lot of potential floats. 

(Great flop, think betting is mandatory here as we get calls from some draws, the unlikely case J, Tx hands, some mid-pairs and even possibly sets that decide to slowplay. Plus chance of getting action increases 3 way obviously. I also think sizing of 40-50% is fine as well)

 

Turn – This is obviously an absolute gin card. No reason in the world to bet here. This gives me the advantage of making my hand look a lot weaker than it is. It also doesn't push him off any draws that are exactly 0% here. I'm not 100% sure how I would of played if he bet turn. I think i would have to call and then decide on river if I was check/raising or just leading. 

(Agreed, effective nuts here. I think checking is fine but also I wouldn't be averse to a small bet here either given that the 2 effectively changes nothing. I think if villain calls flop then he calls turn to a small bet and you might even induce a bluff if the villain senses weakness or has picked up additional flush outs. I think either play works – what do you think of leading smallish here?)

River – Another great card for the hand. We pretty much have the nuts here(I think we would of heard from TT or 22 on the flop). The question I was faced with was how much to bet, and what exactly can we get value from. Given how deep we were pre, I don't think he has slow played an overpair, but it's possible. That leaves us with AJ, KJ, AT, KT, and maybe 77-99.

(The T is a great card as it fills villain up if he has a T and I cannot see many people not getting plenty of chips in with Ts full. I like a lead here for at least 50% of the pot. If villain has no T then he probably folds anyway to even a small bet as he likely can purely beat a bluff. Obviously, you got all the action you wanted) 

Once Villian raises, I literally spaz out and just insta click the raise button. I found out I have a bit of a tell here, which I caught myself on later. I have a bad habit of hovering over the “raise/Call All In” button when I think my opponent might shove and I'm not folding. I did that in this case, so when he raised, I just insta spaz raised it back. I've made note that this needs to be corrected haha. 

I think you played the hand very well and your thought process seems really sound throughout. Very nice hand sir! laugh

 

I'd like your thoughts on how the hands plays, and my thoughts through it. Do you play the same, or maybe do something different?

 

End Result

 

He ends up having QTcc. This hand somewhat plays itself out on the river, as he is likely thinking he just smashed the world vs me and never sees the JJ coming. I take a solid chip lead with 27 players left, and cripple the other big stack(who was on my right) in one fell swoop.

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November 25, 2013 - 8:29 pm
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I like the bet, cbet, check turn bomb river line makes it look bluffy vs good players.

Sometimes it sucks flopping a set with a over pair bc it crushes the board, it’s a pretty set flop though so I think we can bet bigger because he is either gonna call or he won’t.

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December 9, 2013 - 12:56 am
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the post shud be called:

 

'i get all his chips cos i have the nizzles and he has 2nd nizzles'

 

he obv has a ten right?

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I would bet bigger on the flop since he is calling with almost his entire range and probably doesnt know your typical cbet sizing yet.

 

I would make a small bet on the turn in order to help build the pot and maybe induce a bluff. Otherwise, he's gonna need to have a super strong hand in order to get stack in on the river and total air is folding river no matter what you do any way.

 

On the river, I would shove over his raise so that he doesnt get a chance to just call my reraise.

 

*Generally, I would play the hand as if I knew he had AJ or maybe KQ because it doesnt much matter what you do if he is signifcantly stronger or weaker than that.

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