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getting great odds, but do I have to call?

mmfitter

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July 21, 2010 - 11:21 pm

Sat'd into the PS 250K. Could not get anything going at all. First in from middle w KTo. Opened the pot two hands in a row a couple of orbits ago to no calls. I was running 16/14 thru about 100 hands.

Thought about folding, shoving too, but opted to make standard raise bec nobody called me before.

greener_tree was running 23/23, 20 hands but hadn't 3 bet squeezed yet. Getting great odds but I'm never ahead here, right? Do I have to call here anyway because of stack issues?

Poker Stars $300 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

TomfooleryU (UTG+2): BB = 7.4, t1484
Pipedream17 (MP1): BB = 13.9, t2784
mm209 (MP2): BB = 11.8, t2351
thewh00sel (CO): BB = 29.8, t5965
8BallDeluxe (BTN): BB = 56.0, t11200
greener_tree (SB): BB = 32.8, t6558
I EyeDeA I (BB): BB = 15.7, t3145
cool0813 (UTG): BB = 4.2, t831
phillyblunt2 (UTG+1): BB = 14.3, t2854

Pre Flop: (t300) mm209 is MP2 with K of diamonds T of spades
4 folds, mm209 raises to t499, 2 folds, greener_tree raises to t6557, 2 folds

RonFezBuddy

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July 22, 2010 - 1:04 am

you need to put in 1852 to win a pot of 4902. It's not really the magic 2-1 where you kinda have to call. I'd fold because no one is shoving light against a guy with your stack size who opens so i'd expect him to show up with a strong range.

However, opening here is a huge leak,imo. If you're going to do anything just shove. Pre ante though I'd just fold it with 4 to act.

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July 22, 2010 - 4:01 am

You can't raise/fold this stack ever.

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July 22, 2010 - 11:36 am

fold pre imo.. even with antes it might still be a fold.. i used to snap shove this with antes in this spot but come to find out thats one of my biggest leaks is shoving too wide

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July 22, 2010 - 4:04 pm

you will see a huge turnaround in your game if you avoid this situation entirely negative ev written all over it. 100% fold pre. with your stack 1st in aggressor is optimal. no one is folding to a 3 bet with your stack

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July 23, 2010 - 11:11 am

Thanks — Def have a prob w/ K-To first fr mp in w a trouble stack.

Ended up folding here. If I saw someone else do this I would make a note of them being a bad player. I attribute this poor play by not having a solid plan before the hand played out. When I'm playing my A game I get prepared before the hand starts by going over in my mind what my actions will be if certain hands pop up.

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