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This is a wierd hand that I played earlier tonight. Was wanting some feedback. I think calling the raise in the small blind is alil questionable but given my stack size I think its ok. The PFRer was running a 22/5 over 80 hands and the BB is running a 20/17 over 60 hands. Definetly dont think I should have bet the flop. I donk the turn just to see where I stand in the pot and try to take it down. The main question here is should I bet for value on the river or shove. I shoved in this position because I want to rep AK is this a good play?
Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
JPeppi (CO): BB = 66.0, t105655
kneadalife (BTN): BB = 5.5, t8845
Hero (SB): BB = 37.3, t59605
CYGANO-RJ (BB): BB = 23.8, t38092
marcelomig (UTG): BB = 16.5, t26476
Kitchi'sGirl (UTG+1): BB = 15.7, t25165
flexmar (UTG+2): BB = 53.1, t84983
trailerup (MP1): BB = 24.1, t38516
mostheimer (MP2): BB = 45.1, t72134
Pre Flop: (t3750) Hero is SB with J
A
2 folds, flexmar raises to t3200, 4 folds, Hero calls t2400, CYGANO-RJ calls t1600
Flop: (t10950) 3 T A
(3 players)
Hero checks, CYGANO-RJ checks, flexmar checks
Turn: (t10950) 7 (3 players)
Hero bets t6400, CYGANO-RJ calls t6400, flexmar calls t6400
River: (t30150) A (3 players)
Hero bets t49855 all in, CYGANO-RJ folds, flexmar folds
October 6, 2010
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up until the river, i think its standard – i like the flop check, because its a hand that you cant really go for 3 streets of value with, especially multiway.
on the river, i would b/c something like 10k instead of shoving. shoving looks pretty strong here multiway, it looks as if you have an ace or even a boat, so its hard to get paid off.
if you bet like 1/3 pot, then you can make it look like you are trying to value bet a T or a mid pp and you might get looked up, but shoving into 2 players screams trips+ and i doubt you ever get called by anything worse, save for a weaker ace which is unlikely.
bennymacca said:
up until the river, i think its standard – i like the flop check, because its a hand that you cant really go for 3 streets of value with, especially multiway.
on the river, i would b/c something like 10k instead of shoving. shoving looks pretty strong here multiway, it looks as if you have an ace or even a boat, so its hard to get paid off.
if you bet like 1/3 pot, then you can make it look like you are trying to value bet a T or a mid pp and you might get looked up, but shoving into 2 players screams trips+ and i doubt you ever get called by anything worse, save for a weaker ace which is unlikely.
I like the way you played the hand as well until the river…..i'd bet small and try and get someone to look you up light or someone who thinks they can take the pot away and will shove on you.
I think building the pot from the flop is best. I am not a fan of slow-playing. Right now, you are probably ahead. But you still need to build the pot…because running into a negative slow-play equity problem would really suck. In other words, a villain that is fine checking pocket 7's on the flop and folding to a bet. By allowing him to “catch up”, you allow him to crush you.
However, I do like a small bet on the river to give the villains the illusion of fold equity and induce them to spaz vomit chips. The shove on the river looks like trips…you would only get called by better…boat, flush that got there…YOu're not getting value from a KT type of hand.
October 6, 2010
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a10fouru said:
I think building the pot from the flop is best. I am not a fan of slow-playing. Right now, you are probably ahead. But you still need to build the pot…because running into a negative slow-play equity problem would really suck. In other words, a villain that is fine checking pocket 7's on the flop and folding to a bet. By allowing him to “catch up”, you allow him to crush you.
However, I do like a small bet on the river to give the villains the illusion of fold equity and induce them to spaz vomit chips. The shove on the river looks like trips…you would only get called by better…boat, flush that got there…YOu're not getting value from a KT type of hand.
can we really get 3 streets of value here with AJ unimproved? weak aces will likely check flop and call turn and river, but they wont call 3 streets. if you go for flop/turn value, you open yourself up to being bluffed and it puts you in a sucky spot. but getting turn/river value means they will have to raise turn or river which is a lot more risky.
the board is extremely dry, so when you are letting them catch up, they can only really hit a set or a 2 pair with their worse ace, so thats 3 outs at most. not exactly a high risk play.
of course if someone binks a set or 2 pair they will crush you, but think about the value from tens or worse aces that might call 2 streets.
another reason to check flop is that if you bet you would be donking into the original raiser who could easily have AQ/AK, raise and leave you in a horrible spot.
so in other words, i dont like donk betting flop here 😀
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