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General Advice/Strategy for 30bb stack
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July 15, 2016 - 3:41 pm
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Hi All,

I have just ended a day 1 of a big enough tournament here in my area (Three day 1’s, roughly 1000 entrants overall) with a stack of 30 big blinds at the starting level of the final day.

I understand that it will all be player and table dependent but I am looking for any general advice or concepts for playing this stack size, must watch videos or articles etc. The organisers reckon the bubble will burst pretty soon after starting the final day. The structure is slow enough at 30 minute levels.

Cheers!

Ro

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July 16, 2016 - 10:41 am
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I will try to answer this.

With ~30bb you should have a more tight range to raise, than if you have 40bb+; Resteal all in is an overshove at this point, but good if you have ~20bbs or less (smaller than 10bb should not have fold equity anymore, 3bet shove tight); If you 3bet oop, go and go is probably a good idea, but if you hit heavy the flop you can check call or check shove. I don´t like to 3bet light with this stack.

Coments will be apreciated! Specially if i am doing it wrong lol smile

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July 17, 2016 - 9:36 pm
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3-betting light is tough because if you give up now you’re breaking out the push-fold charts.

Those mid-20s stacks are good for check shoving appropriate flops as you pointed out. You gave good rules of thumb.

If you see other short stacks at the table getting small raises through, even with 15 bigs, then you don’t have to worry about shoving such a big stack. Some brick and mortar tournaments let you get away with more minraises late, vs. online.

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Not really in agreement that opening wide and 3-bet bluffing at 30bb stacks are not an option. To be honest, since it’s very difficult to effectively flat-call preflop raises on <30bb, your best chances to pick up chips are by taking good open spots and 3-bet spots.

If you take just two or three good 3-bet bluff spots then you can chip up from 30bb to over 40bb very comfortably with no showdown. The good thing about 3-betting on these stacks is that as long as you get your sizing right (2.75x-3x OOP, 2.25x-2.5x IP) you’re unlikely to be in any tough spots – people won’t flat reasonably-sized 3-bets that much at these stacks, and as long as you’re 3-bet bluffing with a somewhat polarized range, your decisions versus a 4-bet shove are easy.

One piece of advice I would give is to drop a lot of the hands out of your opening range that contain two cards 8 or lower. That means occasionally folding hands like 66 or 76s in spots where you would usually open them, and opening hands like KTo or A2s instead. The reason being that Ace blockers and high card blockers have a significant impact on how often you actually get called or 3-bet preflop, so it’s more advantageous to open blocker hands at shortish stacks than it is hands that are going to play uncomfortably postflop and get called or 3-bet more often. Cards below a 7 or 8 are ‘reverse blockers’ which make life more difficult, especially when there are more players left to act behind us and we’re in EP.

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July 20, 2016 - 3:23 pm
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Thanks for the replies! Some good advice there smile. Unfortunately I ended up busting anyway, 150th out of 1070. I found having the break between day 1 and the final day really allowed me to work on studying a specific stack size which I haven’t had much experience with.

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July 23, 2016 - 6:17 pm
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Thanks, Matt. It sounds like, although I have improved at not just thinking about my own cards, I still need to think about other people’s stacks more. Three-betting someone who has 25 bigs will generate a reaction that has little to do with my own stack size.

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