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October 11, 2013
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PokerStars - $2.50+$0.25|200/400 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 9 players Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 UTG: 24,722.00 Hero (UTG+1): 29,096.00 MP: 10,804.00 MP+1: 11,723.00 LP: 19,496.00 CO: 1,321.00 BTN: 20,636.00 SB: 11,348.00 BB: 72,537.00 UTG posts ante 50.00, Hero posts ante 50.00, MP posts ante 50.00, MP+1 posts ante 50.00, LP posts ante 50.00, CO posts ante 50.00, BTN posts ante 50.00, SB posts ante 50.00, BB posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 200.00, BB posts BB 400.00 Pre Flop: (1050.00) Hero has AT
fold, [color=red]Hero raises to 800.00[/color], fold, fold, fold, [color=red]CO raises to 1,271.00 and is all-in[/color], fold, fold, BB calls 871.00, Hero calls 471.00 Flop: (4463.00, 3 players) 7
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BB checks, [color=red]Hero bets 4,000.00[/color], [color=red]BB raises to 9,600.00[/color], Hero calls 5,600.00 River: (27663.00, 3 players) 8
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August 25, 2012
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I think you played the hand fine. At first I thought river was a clear shove, but actually now I think about it I don't think you ever get called by worse when you shove. Villain's turn c/r range is most likely to be Tx, 7x and the occasional bluff, and since you chop vs Tx anyway and he's never folding it, there's not really that much EV to be gained from a river shove. It seems pretty unlikely he would c/r pair lower than Tx on the turn and then c/c river with it.
August 31, 2013
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theginger45 said:
I think you played the hand fine. At first I thought river was a clear shove, but actually now I think about it I don't think you ever get called by worse when you shove. Villain's turn c/r range is most likely to be Tx, 7x and the occasional bluff, and since you chop vs Tx anyway and he's never folding it, there's not really that much EV to be gained from a river shove. It seems pretty unlikely he would c/r pair lower than Tx on the turn and then c/c river with it.
+1
Villain sometimes has JJ too that did'nt 3bet pre.
August 8, 2013
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NoirDesir87 said:
theginger45 said:
I think you played the hand fine. At first I thought river was a clear shove, but actually now I think about it I don't think you ever get called by worse when you shove. Villain's turn c/r range is most likely to be Tx, 7x and the occasional bluff, and since you chop vs Tx anyway and he's never folding it, there's not really that much EV to be gained from a river shove. It seems pretty unlikely he would c/r pair lower than Tx on the turn and then c/c river with it.
+1
Villain sometimes has JJ too that did'nt 3bet pre.
I don't think JJ ever checks the river. I think the check raise on the turn means he either has a T, or he has a T beat. He isn't doing that with 99, ever. I think you played it great.
August 31, 2013
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He just check a 7 so I think he can check JJ (because our range when we call the turn raise is probably 7x, Tx, JJ+)
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August 6, 2013
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I agree with Ginger45, there is not much hands that our oponent could have from which we are getting value on the river, 88-99's but those in my opinion is not check/raising the turn, so checking behind is the play imo.
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August 8, 2013
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NoirDesir87 said:
He just check a 7 so I think he can check JJ (because our range when we call the turn raise is probably 7x, Tx, JJ+)
We don't have JJ+ in our range as we should always be iso'ing with those hands pre.
October 11, 2013
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Question:
Was his call correct or that was a fold?
January 15, 2013
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His defend of your raise and the 3 bb shove pre? I think it is OK by him, but a better play by him with his massive stack would have been to 4 bet, especially if you have not been playing back at him. Conversely, I think that , depending upon your read of him (e.g. HE has not been playing back at YOU) a 4 bet by you in position may have been prudent as well.
October 11, 2013
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mikewebb68 said:
His defend of your raise and the 3 bb shove pre? I think it is OK by him, but a better play by him with his massive stack would have been to 4 bet, especially if you have not been playing back at him. Conversely, I think that , depending upon your read of him (e.g. HE has not been playing back at YOU) a 4 bet by you in position may have been prudent as well.
I thought about that possibility acutally but I guessed he would call me anyway unless I had gone all-in, and I don't think ATo would be good enough for the shove vs. that flat
June 1, 2012
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I would go ahead and make an expoitable fold here. We are ethier chopping or we are crushed. If i call turn i am defiantly folding to a river he will only bluff like 1% of the time in this spot.
August 31, 2013
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AJLV said:
NoirDesir87 said:
He just check a 7 so I think he can check JJ (because our range when we call the turn raise is probably 7x, Tx, JJ+)
We don't have JJ+ in our range as we should always be iso'ing with those hands pre.
My bad, didn't see the shortstack ^^
June 11, 2012
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i would say his call was at least fishy with such a bad hand vs an UTG1 open and a CO shove.
and i am def isoraise pre if BB calls.
as played: well played imho maybe fold turn if you are really a beast
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