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FTP 50/50: did I overplayed my hand or it is a cooler?
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September 18, 2010 - 2:03 am
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There about 70 ppl left… I have some history with villain, not to much but still.. He folded few times to my 3bets, just a hand before I 3b his UTG raise and he folded… Also, he called me once from blinds, check/called AKQ flop, c/c turn, he leads T river with AQ… Other than that I don't have any reads on him…

 

Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t800.00/t1600.00 Blinds – 8 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

keepplaya (UTG): t61758.00 38.60 BBs
dfunks222 (UTG+1): t85157.00 53.22 BBs
SchaefPerro (MP1): t37882.00 23.68 BBs
Krabby23 (MP2): t21254.00 13.28 BBs
troyboy8ball (CO): t56642.00 35.40 BBs
BaldHeadSlick (BTN): t50199.00 31.37 BBs
bfelds (SB): t81230.00 50.77 BBs
PurnPup (BB): t47188.00 29.49 BBs

Pre Flop: (t2400) keepplaya is UTG with Q of diamonds Q of clubs
keepplaya raises to t3455, 3 folds, troyboy8ball calls t3455, 2 folds, PurnPup calls t1855

Flop: (t11165) J of clubs 2 of spades T of clubs (3 players)
PurnPup checks, keepplaya bets t7655.00, troyboy8ball folds, PurnPup raises to t20000, keepplaya raises to t58103, PurnPup calls t23733 all in

Turn: (t98631) K of diamonds (2 players – 1 is all in)

River: (t98631) 3 of hearts (2 players – 1 is all in)

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September 18, 2010 - 2:11 am
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I think I fold here because your Queens are blockers to a lot of his big draws and he'd raise PF with AKs.  With those out of his range it's mostly sets imo.

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September 18, 2010 - 3:08 am
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i call…but im a donk.  I think AJ/club draws do this way too much.

 

EDIT- you add in QJ/KJ and I really can't see myself folding.  He flatted the big getting absurd odds and you wanna put him on a set RFB?  sorry if i misread the HH, Im pretty intoxicated, but I don't think I can fathom folding, guess thats why i suck tho.

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September 18, 2010 - 2:46 pm
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RonFezBuddy said:

I think I fold here because your Queens are blockers to a lot of his big draws and he'd raise PF with AKs.  With those out of his range it's mostly sets imo.


Very good point about Queens as blockers… Also the way he played AQ hand before on AKQ with check calling the flop don't suggest that he is raising AJ type of hand here… So I agree that I should fold, there is no need to risk my whole comfortable stack in this spot where I'm probably crushed…

 

I've kinda leveled myself here, I was putting a bit of pressure on this guy, so I've expected him to make a move on me eventually… In his eyes this is ok board to make a move with any piece of it, because I won't hit it often enough (AJ should be only J in my UTG open range, maybe KJs), and since he called on bb with very good odds he should have a piece of this board very often…

 

In cash game I'm never folding this, with SPR (stack to pot ratio) of about 4 and a lot of possible draws on board it's just not profitable to fold… but there is rebuy button in cash games :).

 

 btw. recently I bubbled final table with JJ in similar situation… I wanted to get it in pre flop (raising UTG to induce shove), but bb flated me, and I couldn't fold post flop tho it was pretty obvious fold… It seems that this big pairs are trouble for me deep in tournaments, so next time I will try to induce by raising something like 34555 making it look like misclick 🙂

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September 19, 2010 - 9:56 am
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his sizing is rerally weird to,i get scared as shit when people put in like 50% of there chips.

and you do have the queens with the Qc so you do have blockers to big draws.

just a shit spot i guess you can stack off and it would be fine or you could fold just a ame situation since he seems nitty

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September 19, 2010 - 10:37 pm
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22 would make sense. JJ and TT wouldn't. He shouldn't be flatting those pre-flop here on a 30 bb stack with a lot of money in the middle.

Is that pot size correct? 800/1600 no antes?

JT makes a whole lot of sense here. He's already invested in the bb and it's a pretty easy hand to play post-flop.

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September 20, 2010 - 9:36 am
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I think the key to this hand is his raise size on the flop.  He raised us committing half his stack, I dont see that as a draw. I think a draw shoves and so I think he has two pair or a set so I think we fold there.

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