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FTOPS Super Sat hand
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November 14, 2010 - 1:57 pm
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FTOPS Super Sat hand. Early in. What do you think.

 

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   I would have probably c-bet and increased my betting on each turn, hoping to get it all-in. However, if your read on the opponent led you to believe he would bet away then slow-playing him was an acceptable course of action but I would have shoved on the river. I think you lost value on this hand.  I do not like slow-playing in tournaments because when you change your betting habit  people take note and react.

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Looks like the converter clipped the hand. Actually he runner-runner a better boat than I

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You are right did not see the kings before. I still would have bet post-flop and probably would have shoved on the turn. This is a sick suckout most of the time your boat will hold up.

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Results aside, I think that the line you took is going to cost you more in the long run that in will win. Checking the flop allows the villain in a lot of cases to check behind and take free chances at improving twice (one free card on the turn and then floating a bet there which is going to be smaller and less impactful allowing him a cheaper river). I think when you hit you have to bet and bet hard. 

 

As played I think I would have at the very least check/raised the flop. I think you gave him all the incentive in the world to think he was good and take it all the way to the river. Your line looks a lot like a mid PP to me (77-TT) trying to hang around and when the K comes you try to represent it (which wasn't going to work well if he was holding one). I think that is where your line ran out of credibility.

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Go ahead and c-bet the flop.  If he has anything he's going to be sticking around anyways.  Raise on turn is fine.  River is gross but I'm probably calling anyways.

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C-bet flop and check/jam turn. He won't bet the turn with air biscuits but you'll bet him out if he has a middle pair. And the check/jam could look a little bluffy and get looked up kinda light.

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I think I cbet the flop to about 115, maybe even a bit less say 100. As played I think you have to bet the turn as you could easily let him off by checking behind and you're left to bet the river, only making a small amount off hands like 77-TT and any Jx hands. As played I like the raise on the turn as it allows you to build a pot. The river is just a gross card, although there are two Kings out now which makes it less likely he has one, making the other hands I've mentioned more likely. I feel you have to bet the river for about 1/2 pot to get value from all the Jx, 77-TT and 6x hands in his range. If he shoves river then I really don't know what to do though! Meh… as played I just call river bet as there's nothing he would call a river raise that we beat (I don't think!) and kick myself for not building a pot earlier.

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