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FT bubble again: AQs in $8.80 turbo
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February 19, 2014 - 8:31 am
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Yeah again a situation where I am in doubt I made the correct play (especially considering ICM!).

So we are 11 left, field was about 380 players, we are sitting 5-handed.

I am 4/11, with slightly above average stack, my tourney M is 7.

I sit on the button and get deal AheartQheart. The cutoff, tourney M = 9 and 2nd in the tourney is a solid reg, who was AI a few times before and seems very active but not insanely aggro. He opens for a minraise.

11th gets $54, 9th $65 and 1st $650.

I wonder if I should just flat (beeing in position with a hand that should flop pretty well) or just shove, considering the fact that the stacks are pretty shallow and it is unlikely to get dealt a better hand than AQs soon.

I ended up shoving, mainly because I think we are ahead most of the time here, since he would propably open with any Ax or any broadway or pair. On the other hand if I just flat and miss I am still in good enough shape to have a good shot to finish somewhere between 7th and 3rd as there are quite a few bad players left. Still, when shoving and he folds I am in very good shape and if he calls (probably with AQ+, maybe AJs+, 99+) and we win I am in excellent shape for top2.

So, what would you do?

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February 19, 2014 - 9:22 am
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I admit I'm bad with M because I count everything in terms of big blinds (including pots), but if you have around 17-19bb and a good player opens the cutoff on the final table bubble, i'm fist pump jamming AQs 🙂

Because icm's biggest impact is at the very top, and because you have slightly above average stack, you're not going to make money by choosing to wait for better spots over ones like these. I imagine that as the chip leader (or close to it since youre 4th) and being a reg AND this being the final table bubble this guy's definitely opening light. You can't flat with under 20bb really unless somehow you're getting amazing set mining odds because even if you think you have an edge post flop on villains game, you cant afford to put say 10-20% of your stack in and then fold when you're that short.

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February 19, 2014 - 4:08 pm
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For me, AQs + turbo + 5-handed = boner. This is a towards-the-top-of-my-range starting hand. You'll get called by worse at this stack depth & in these positions (think where AQs sits in your perceived range), are rarely dominated, will get a fair share of folds, and end up flipping a fair amount of the time – and even old ladies know that you can't win turbos without running well on flips.

I'll never flat here (since you're in a really awkward spot after you brick the flop and he c-bets) and folding is out of the question, so the only remaining issue is whether I want to raise/call to induce shoves from a weaker range. It's worth thinking about but in the end I won't do that here because there's still two players left to act and I doubt he's 4-bet shoving A9 or KQ often enough to have this be as fiendishly brilliant as I'd like.

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February 19, 2014 - 4:27 pm
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As the others have said, this is an easy shove. I definitely understand the temptation to flat and try to preserve your stack (I've made the mistake plenty of times myself).  But you gotta make the play! Watch some of DannyN13's turbo wins if you need to see this in action 🙂

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February 19, 2014 - 5:02 pm
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All right, thanks for confirmation. He had KK and hold. The only reason I even considered wondering if this was a bad allin was the fact that i was in position and would still have good equity if I missed the flop.

Thanks guys, good to know I just run sub-optimal. 😉

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February 19, 2014 - 8:55 pm
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Agree with others… Easy shove

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February 19, 2014 - 11:26 pm
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Definitely a shove also

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